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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 06:15 AM
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You guys are missing the point!!! Nobody, but nobody does the research like Banks!!! They are truly the highest priced product on the market this can not be denied. But, you absolutely get what you pay for. There are many good products on the market but none with the proven track record of a complete bundle as with Banks. Yes, Superchip and Predator cannot be denied. They are a good bang for your buck. But, do they have the built in safety factors? Do they provide a complete package that has been tested as a "Bundle"? No, they do not. We are guessing/trusting when we put products together which have not been tested as a "Bundle" Most often they work and they work good!!! But, are they allowing your vehicle to run at it's greatest potential? We guess/trust that they do. With Banks they tell us what they have done, how they did it and what it will do. There is no doubt in my mind their sales information has (snip) in it. But they all do!!! When you buy Banks you pay for their research, 45 years of endurance racing experience and American Quality. They are the best. If you want some truth and honesty about the product ask the tens of thousands of Motorhome owners that drive this stuff everyday. Reliability is what a 65 year old man wants when he and his wife hit the road behind the wheel of their life savings. They don't want stuff breaking down on them. And by God when I'm 65 years old sitting behind the wheel of my motorhome I still want to get a (snip) when I stomp on the gas. It's just rediculus to argue about a few bucks when we've all spent so damn much to buy the truck in the beginning. We all wanted the best truck our hard earned money could buy, so why stop there buy the best aftermarket goodies. All of us should ride off into the sunset with smiles on our faces, (snip) and a Banks Power sticker on our (SNIP). God Bless America, Our Military Troops and the Ford Power Stroke Diesel!!!!!!!!

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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 4174911
You guys are missing the point!!! Nobody, but nobody does the research like Banks!!! They are truly the highest priced product on the market this can not be denied. But, you absolutely get what you pay for. There are many good products on the market but none with the proven track record of a complete bundle as with Banks. Yes, Superchip and Predator cannot be denied. They are a good bang for your buck. But, do they have the built in safety factors? Do they provide a complete package that has been tested as a "Bundle"? No, they do not. We are guessing/trusting when we put products together which have not been tested as a "Bundle" Most often they work and they work good!!! But, are they allowing your vehicle to run at it's greatest potential? We guess/trust that they do. With Banks they tell us what they have done, how they did it and what it will do. There is no doubt in my mind their sales information has (). But they all do!!! When you buy Banks you pay for their research, 45 years of endurance racing experience and American Quality. They are the best. If you want some truth and honesty about the product ask the tens of thousands of Motorhome owners that drive this stuff everyday. Reliability is what a 65 year old man wants when he and his wife hit the road behind the wheel of their life savings. They don't want stuff breaking down on them. And by God when I'm 65 years old sitting behind the wheel of my motorhome I still want to get a () when I stomp on the gas. It's just rediculus to argue about a few bucks when we've all spent so () much to buy the truck in the beginning. We all wanted the best truck our hard earned money could buy, so why stop there buy the best aftermarket goodies. All of us should ride off into the sunset with smiles on our faces, () and a Banks Power (). God Bless America, Our Military Troops and the Ford Power Stroke Diesel!!!!!!!!

CLEAN UP YOUR LANGUAGE TimL
banks has always been, and still is, 90% show, 10% go!!!!! its all hype that he flashes around. his stuff costs an arm and leg cuz he spends a couple million in advertising!! also, who do u think is paying for all his dumb projects?? how much of the customers $$ u suppose went into that stupid "land speed record" truck??
diablosport doesnt waste their time or my money on dumb stuff. just makes a product that works! it speaks for itself. and banks doesnt give me any diag on my truck, which is 1/2 the reason for buying it!!!!!

i missed NO POINT
 
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 10:40 PM
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To all I've offended sorry about my !@#@$ (masking) won't happen again, Richard
 
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Old Jun 12, 2004 | 11:40 PM
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To all I've offended sorry about my !@#@$ (masking) won't happen again, Richard
now u know u just came on a tad strong, u think?
 
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by jdadamsjr
Hmm... let me calculmaniate...
156 advertised Hp for $2900 at banks... or
100 verified RWHP for less than $400 at motorhaven for the Predator...

HMMM.... if I do MORE calculmaniate (sic)
2900/156 = $18.59 / HP
375 /100 = $3.75 / HP ......

Maybe I'm figerin' wrong... can someone help this ole' dummy out ?

Just kidding, obviously... only thing wrong with this is that I'm not Gale Banks getting all that profit !

What you're doing wrong is using the wrong Banks numbers. Look at his dyno pulls off his web site ar http://www.bankspower.com/Test_Results_AF08.cfm

You will find them down on power vs my stock truck with a Predator and a K&N FIPK; https://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gal...?userid=153237

The Predator provides a substantial advantage in HP and Torque and POWER BAND. Check it out...real numbers without hype Fair and Balanced.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by bighoss550
banks has always been, and still is, 90% show, 10% go!!!!! its all hype that he flashes around. his stuff costs an arm and leg cuz he spends a couple million in advertising!! also, who do u think is paying for all his dumb projects?? how much of the customers $$ u suppose went into that stupid "land speed record" truck??
diablosport doesnt waste their time or my money on dumb stuff. just makes a product that works! it speaks for itself. and banks doesnt give me any diag on my truck, which is 1/2 the reason for buying it!!!!!

i missed NO POINT
Granatelli who owns Diablo is one of the largest performance parts manufacturers in the world.
They Fequently sponser Indy cars and have won Indy at least twice. They sponser other types of racing also.

Banks can't begin to compete with Granitelli on R&D
Check my answer above. Compare their dyno pulls with mine,,,no contest.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 07:00 AM
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Banks is falling HORRIBLY when they will not even return phone calls or emails.

I could careless what price they show, if they will not do the above then it does not matter what price, ……………..no one will buy anything if they cannot talk with a representative of Banks.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Tim Lamkin
Banks is falling HORRIBLY when they will not even return phone calls or emails.

I could careless what price they show, if they will not do the above then it does not matter what price, ……………..no one will buy anything if they cannot talk with a representative of Banks.
The latest in race intercooler technology has the intercooler fabricated out of aluminum billet. Somehow this transfers more heat. The most trick intercooler is an air/water intercooler where the water is kept under 100deg by using ice. I have even seen a seperate A/C compressor cooling the intercooler, one air/air, one air/water. There are liquids that perform better than water such as Red Line Water Wetter.

For $1000 you can get a better performing intercooler. Even getting a huge big rig intercooler from a salvage yard and cutting it down may be better as well as cheaper. The main thing would be to increase the core size and the overall size to the maximum that will fit.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Choctaw Bob
The latest in race intercooler technology has the intercooler fabricated out of aluminum billet. Somehow this transfers more heat. The most trick intercooler is an air/water intercooler where the water is kept under 100deg by using ice. I have even seen a seperate A/C compressor cooling the intercooler, one air/air, one air/water. There are liquids that perform better than water such as Red Line Water Wetter.

For $1000 you can get a better performing intercooler. Even getting a huge big rig intercooler from a salvage yard and cutting it down may be better as well as cheaper. The main thing would be to increase the core size and the overall size to the maximum that will fit.

Agreed, I am the one that would really like a Banks intercooler, good fabrication methods and the performance of "their" intercooler is probably much better than stock, (I know we are not sure, however it is out of aluminum and welded so…) the intake is better..........but no return to my email or phone..............ug.........


BANKS YOU READING THIS
 
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Tim Lamkin
Agreed, I am the one that would really like a Banks intercooler, good fabrication methods and the performance of "their" intercooler is probably much better than stock, (I know we are not sure, however it is out of aluminum and welded so…) the intake is better..........but no return to my email or phone..............ug.........


BANKS YOU READING THIS
i dont think he realizes the "BAD PRESS" hes gettin here!!!!

try this, 1 800 438 7693- ext. 4128 monday. barry is pretty up to date
 
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim Lamkin
Agreed, I am the one that would really like a Banks intercooler, good fabrication methods and the performance of "their" intercooler is probably much better than stock, (I know we are not sure, however it is out of aluminum and welded so…) the intake is better..........but no return to my email or phone..............ug.........


BANKS YOU READING THIS
Tim, that is incredible, I never have a problem with a return call. Do you want the guy I talk to? Let me know, I may have his extension here somewhere and he always has called me back to answer my silly questions.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 01:17 PM
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Tim, that is incredible, I never have a problem with a return call. Do you want the guy I talk to? Let me know, I may have his extension here somewhere and he always has called me back to answer my silly questions.

What erks me, I sent two emails and two phone calls, that is three to many.
Left, each time, three different ways to reach me.
Everyone gets busy............and I am OK with that......however, other folks have discovered this problem also.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 01:43 PM
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Something no one is considering about banks also though is that the optional speed loader with the 6 gun chip is a protective device also. If the EGT's get too high it turns the chip down or if necessary off. How many chips do you know of out there that actually help protect your engine? I just purchased the six gun with the speed loader and payed $850 for both. The intercooler and the High Ram inlet casting aren't available as on the shelf items yet. I'm not even worried about and egt guage cause if the the speed loader is doing its job it won't let them get over 1000. I wouldn't mind having the high ram inlet though, cause everyone i have talked to says the one on the 6.0L from the factory is a lil small.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 01:45 PM
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What erks me, I sent two emails and two phone calls, that is three to many.
Left, each time, three different ways to reach me.
Everyone gets busy............and I am OK with that......however, other folks have discovered this problem also.
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Tim, I had the same thing happen with the salesman that sent me my packet I requested. His name was jeff arrend. I called banks directly and got a tech named danny. He was great. He knew every answer to every question off the top of his head.
 
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Old Jun 13, 2004 | 04:06 PM
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What erks me, I sent two emails and two phone calls, that is three to many.
Left, each time, three different ways to reach me.
Everyone gets busy............and I am OK with that......however, other folks have discovered this problem also.
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Tim, I had the same thing happen with the salesman that sent me my packet I requested. His name was jeff arrend. I called banks directly and got a tech named danny. He was great. He knew every answer to every question off the top of his head.
I spoke with Barry Torgeson. He calls me back every time within about 2 hours. Sorry you have had the problem. I think the Edge and the Banks products are both good as well as some of the other chips. I just like the dial a horse feature on those two units and since I don't care for digital gauges, I chose the Banks product instead. It is being installed on Wednesday finally.
 
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