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Old Jun 5, 2004 | 04:20 PM
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Angry Need help, stupid situation

I was working on my truck (86 F150, 300-6) today trying to chase down a hard start and an idle misfire when I notice that the spark wires were not in the order they were in my haynes manual. Well in a moment of mechanical genius I rewired the plug wires up on the dizzy in the "correct" order. Well ever since then I haven't gotten it started again and I've done everything I can thing of. I pulled a spark plug and had the engine cranked until that cylinder was at TDC, and sho nuff the rotor in the distributor was at the correct position. I've tried every different kind of wiring order thinkable and it still isn't starting. I've also picked up a backfire through the intake as well...

So now I'm taking all ideas.

Here's a list of what does work :
Coil
dizzy (brand new cap and rotor)
plugs (all good)
compression is good

Anything else just ask about it.
And yes, I realize that if I had left it alone in the first place I wouldn't be here right now.

Thanks,
Greg
 
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Old Jun 5, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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Maybe you're 360 degrees off. It sounds like the engine is firing at TDC on the exhaust stroke not TDC on the compression stroke. The backfire thru the carb is because the valves are open.
 
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Old Jun 5, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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I think you mean 180 degrees off?? LOL
 
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Old Jun 5, 2004 | 10:44 PM
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well got it figured out. I not only managed to get it 180 degrees off, but then *somehow* managed to get it another 70 degrees off. Boy was that a PITA to fix. But it's alive once more.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2004 | 08:34 AM
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360 degrees on the crank = 180 degrees on the camshaft. Take your pick.
 
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Old Jun 6, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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Yeah, the haynes manual is wrong. Took me a while to figure out also.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 06:35 PM
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do not blindly trust manuals. this is why forums are the best!
 
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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My haynes manual shows the #1 wire above the right cap clip, the rotor cap itself has the #1 labeled as below the right cap clip and I wired according to that.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2004 | 11:02 PM
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It doesn't matter where #1 wire is in the cap as long as the following are correct

1. the wires are in the correct firing order in the cap.
2. The rotor points to the #1 wire terminal in the cap when the dist is installed and bolted down
3. the dist was installed with the engine #1 cyl in the T.D.C. firing position , by looking at the timing mark and aligning it with 0 on the timing plate or marks.
The manuals show 3 different #1 positions for the dist in my 1990.
you want the dist at least close to the factory position, to avoid Clearance and wire length problems.

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