Fly in the ointment
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Fly in the ointment
OK...I made a nice little paint booth in my garage..moved everything out put up the curtains, wet the floor, turned on the exhaust fan, put on my mask..I'm going for my third coat now..(AE Paint). In comes the fly. I painted over him. Tried very easily with tweasers to remove him, but to no avail. Got a wing, but that was it. Didn't want to make matters worse so I left him there. That was last night. I'm pretty sure he is still going to be there this morning. What in the world do I do now? Black Paint..
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A fly is nothing compared to a moth duing the backstroke in the middle of the hood. Had that happen when i was clearing when I used to paint out at my dads place that had woods near by. He sure made a mess and had to repaint the hood. I am slowly going to set up my garage more like a booth as I get money. Luckily where I am at now, don't have a real lot of problem with bugs so far. If your lucky you will be able to wetsand the fly out. Keep a tweasers close by when painting at home and a steady hand to pick out things like that. Then hopefully if it didn't make a mess another coat of clear will level the area out.
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Lint, dust, or bugs. Commonly called nibs. We all get them because us average people, don't have perfect conditions to work in.
You are going to have to live with that fly a little longer. You want your paint hard when you make your repair. If you used a hardener with your AE, give it 2-3 days of warm weather. With no hardener, give it 2-3 weeks. AE takes a long time to dry.
Once the paint has hardened up, knock off the bug and sand smooth with 1500 grit. Buff it out. This is what you do if you're lucky and have enough paint beneath the bug. On the other hand, if the bug goes all the way to the primer, sand with 400 grit and repaint the panel.
I know you were looking for a quick and easy fix. There isn't any. Just a warning though. If you try to make your repair before the paint gets hard, you will be repainting the panel.
Lint, dust, or bugs. Commonly called nibs. We all get them because us average people, don't have perfect conditions to work in.
You are going to have to live with that fly a little longer. You want your paint hard when you make your repair. If you used a hardener with your AE, give it 2-3 days of warm weather. With no hardener, give it 2-3 weeks. AE takes a long time to dry.
Once the paint has hardened up, knock off the bug and sand smooth with 1500 grit. Buff it out. This is what you do if you're lucky and have enough paint beneath the bug. On the other hand, if the bug goes all the way to the primer, sand with 400 grit and repaint the panel.
I know you were looking for a quick and easy fix. There isn't any. Just a warning though. If you try to make your repair before the paint gets hard, you will be repainting the panel.
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On my first try at painting I was doing great. I was just giving the hood one last coat when the air hose slipped out of my hand and brushed across the whole front edge of the hood. 
Well, I took the easy way out and put a bug shield on it. Only I know the mess that is back there
Well, I took the easy way out and put a bug shield on it. Only I know the mess that is back there
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I will let it dry for several days, I did use hardener. Do I wet sand it? If I do end up repainting, do I just sand that one spot and feather it, and then respray that spot, or do I have to repaint the entire hood? If so do I have to sand the entire hood? Thanks for all the help..
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If you have to repaint, you will probably end up painting the whole hood. It is possible to blend single stage and buff the blend area after, but usually doesn't come out too good, expecially if it is in the middle of a large panel. Could be possible like if you had a bodyline to backtape (lay the tape down flat past the edge then roll it back up to where the edge is, so part of the tape has the sticky side up so you don't get a harsh tape edge) on and just painted a section and only had to blend a small area then removed the tape and shot a little reducer where the tape was and on the blend area, but most likely I would just plan on repainting the whole hood. Could be possible that the paint may be a little different shade then the rest you painted being it is done on a different day, but usually it won't be different. Yes you would have to wetsand and buff to get him out, and if your lucky he didn't go down to far into the color that you go through either sanding or buffing trying to get him out. Poor little fly, first you pull off his wing then you dump harsh chemicals on top of him.
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Update Fly in the ointment
Here is latest on my hood. I got most of the fly out, and then sanded with 1500/2000 wet. Just a little spot left about the size of pin head. I put a dab of touchup paint in the spot and wet sanded again. Very happy with results, you can hardly tell it was ever there. Now, more bad news. I wet sanded the entire hood, and was polishing it last night. I cannot believe the transformation. It looks like a mirror. That was hard to comprehend when I first heard it (wet sand and polish to make it shine)..anyway, I believe the paint must have been a little thin on one of the sharp edges on top of the hood. I think I polished through the paint, I'll get a better look at it this morning. What do I do now? It's a 66 Ford Truck.
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Yep, them edges go through in a hurry. If you went through your pretty much screwed. Could try touching up brush with some activated clear if the spot is small and carefully sanding and rubbing out the spot, but you will most likely tell where the spot was repaired. Or you could sand the hood with 1000 grit and reclear it, but don't sand into the basecoat. I don't think there is a way on a hood you could only redo a section and blend and make it look good, no area really to keep the blend area small. and if you just resprayed and blended where the spot went through, you probably be able to tell where the edges of the blend were. Oops, forgot you used single stage. Try touching it up with some color and hand rubbing the spot. If it doesn't turn out to you satisfaction, then its probably have to repaint.
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