Dropping a 1000 lb+ diesel engine in the F150 would eat up a good portion of the payload. I expect that Ford will start using the 4.5L V6 PSD in the F150 and Expedition as soon as they can get it to meet emissions requirements. They are starting to use it in their LCF trucks now.

 

Here's my opinion. When this is intoduced, the 4.6 will be dropped, with the 5.4 3V being the base engine, at a slightly better 315 HP, and aound 400 LB/FT. The new engine will be a 420-470 HP player, and the need for a blown Lightning is gone. Who needs a blower when you can get it all motor?

 

The 6.1 HEMI is coming.

See here:

http://photos.ford-trucks.com/showph...t=1&thecat=500

 

Dodge will do anything to sell trucks. Seems like they have to put a different motor in every few years to keep peoples interest. These hemis are gas hogs I wonder what that thing will get.

 

I don't think the 5.4 is losing that bad to the Hemi. Maybe in acceleration speed, but in half ton trucks it gets bigger jobs done than the Hemi ever thought about, and that's the name of the game in trucks, right? Trucks are made to do a job, and the 1/2 ton Ford with the 5.4 outowkrs the 1/2 ton Dodge with a Hemi. In payload and towing, Dodge falls short, so what slack does the 5.4 need to make up? Keep in mind that this is not including the Lightning, which OWNS the hemi, by the way.

 

can you guys say 7.0L . i have a few really good buddies that work for roush racing. over the weekend i got to take a ride to ware they make the new gt (gt40) in the back of the hanger there were these motors on stands. very large motors. asked my buddie jim what are thoes "some new truck/ lighting motor 427 i think" then we walked away to go look at all the gts and other prototypes they had there.

 

I think the Hurricane will be an awesome powerplant. The 5.4 is no slouch and I don't feel it falls short of the Hemi at all. It has 45 less HP but that is because the Hemi wraps out past 5500 RPM to make it. It is only short in torque by 10 ft-lbs, but has more torque until just over 3000 RPM's, where your tachometer spends most of it's time unless youi're racing. Also considering it's lower displacement and the fact that it has more torque per liter than the Hemi, I feel it is a superior design lacking a little displacement in comparison. The 5.4 is also in a heavier truck, with only a 4 spd auto, compared to the Ram's 5 spd auto. The tranny alone could add a half second in the quarter, especially in the Hemi where it is happier in the higher RPM's and benefits more having closer ratios. If towing with the Hemi, it is more likely to require a downshift to maintain a hill where the 5.4 will torque it out, causing less stress to the tranny, which should be considered if you look at Dodges history with transmissions.
Here's what a 6.2 Hurricane would be based on the 5.4's power per liter.
345 HP
420 ft-lbs
However, being an all new design as it sounds it will be, I would expect to see even more.
A 6.1 Hemi, with the same output per liter as the 5.7 would be:
370 HP
400 ft-lbs.
Who knows for sure what they will have until they are out, but I think Ford knows that with a truck as tough as the F-150, that it needs some serious power to back it up. I would rather see them tune it for a little less HP to give it some serious torque at a lower RPM where the engine will spend most of it's life. I think the only other things the F-150 really needs is the 6-spd manual and the Torque shift from the Super Duty. Then when someone says, that thing got a Hemi, they right answer would be, God I hope not.

 

Im new here and kinda curious, Whats the Hurricane is that another engine ford is building?

 

Yes.

Read here:

http://www.detnews.com/2004/autosins...b01-165355.htm

 

The skuttlebutt on deck is that the 6.1 Hemi is suppose to have 440hp and 440tq. AllPar.com insiders say the engines nick name is the 440 simply for those reasons.

 

Wow I sure do hope this Hurricane rumor is true. I was at my friends house last weekend, and she told me she wanted a new Dodge with the Hemi, because its "cool" . I asked her why she wanted a Hemi, and she said, because its big and I will sit higher than everyone else. All I could do was laugh. This is where 1/2 ton trucks have gone. To women who want power and to sit higher than everyone else. But hey if thats what it takes for Ford to kick some mopar and chevy butt, then lets do it!!! Come on Mr. Ford, make this a reality.

 

For most people brand names dont matter they like what they see on TV and they want.

 

I dunno, 440 ft-lbs out of 6.1 liters (around 375 ci) seems a bit high for a N/A motor, unless it requires premium gas, which it may since the 5.7 Hemi requires at least 89 octane. Not saying it's not true, but that would be very similar torque per liter as the Vette Z-06 and the Cobra R motors. I believe the 440 HP.

 

The Hemi has to use 89 octane? Hahaha wow I didnt know that. Geez my aunt and uncle are looking more and more dumb for getting a Hemi instead of the Cummins.(Dont think badly of me because they support Dodge)

 

The Hemi does not have to use 89, although it does say somewhere that it is recommended. I have a 2003 and you can run 87 in it, no pinging noted.