powerstroke vs. cummins
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 05-Mar-02 AT 09:38 PM (EST)]This has probably already been discussed over and over on this site but I am new to the site and don't know how to use the "search". Everytime I click on search it asks for my username and password then brings me back to the messageboard.
Anyway, I have a 2001 F-250 SD, SC(5.4l) that has some problems that I am trying to have resolved. If these aren't fixed I am looking into buying either a late model crew cab with a powerstroke or a Dodge 2500 with a cummins. (dare I bring this up) Anybody out there who has actually owned both and could give me some honest comparisons as far as quality, power, value, etc. it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanx for the input!!!!
Anyway, I have a 2001 F-250 SD, SC(5.4l) that has some problems that I am trying to have resolved. If these aren't fixed I am looking into buying either a late model crew cab with a powerstroke or a Dodge 2500 with a cummins. (dare I bring this up) Anybody out there who has actually owned both and could give me some honest comparisons as far as quality, power, value, etc. it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanx for the input!!!!
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Please look beyond my username for a moment-
My business has owned lots of Ford deisels. When the dodge first came out, everyone loved them. So I waited until '96 and bought one for our company. In actual load for load comparisons, the PowerStroke would outpull the Cummins on long hills. On short hills, they were neck and neck. We had manual transmissions in both. Now that I have more current models of PowerStrokes, I haven't found a Cummins yet that can catch me.
One final note, the Cummins will eat up the PowerStroke in economy under most circumstances. However, it is one noisy SOB!
Good luck!
My business has owned lots of Ford deisels. When the dodge first came out, everyone loved them. So I waited until '96 and bought one for our company. In actual load for load comparisons, the PowerStroke would outpull the Cummins on long hills. On short hills, they were neck and neck. We had manual transmissions in both. Now that I have more current models of PowerStrokes, I haven't found a Cummins yet that can catch me.
One final note, the Cummins will eat up the PowerStroke in economy under most circumstances. However, it is one noisy SOB!
Good luck!
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currently I drive a '98 bluebird transshuttle with the 5.9 cummins 
the same engine they put in the dodge trucks. and I tell you it is the last bus we get with that engine.
it only averages about 6 to 7 miles per gallow witch is the same as are '98 ford startrans with the V10.
all are fords with the PSD pull around 12 to 16 miles per gallon.
these numbers are bassed on a lot of stop and go with a lot of idle time
my personal truck is averaging around 15 stop and go in the city.
the same engine they put in the dodge trucks. and I tell you it is the last bus we get with that engine.it only averages about 6 to 7 miles per gallow witch is the same as are '98 ford startrans with the V10.
all are fords with the PSD pull around 12 to 16 miles per gallon.
these numbers are bassed on a lot of stop and go with a lot of idle time
my personal truck is averaging around 15 stop and go in the city.
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powerstroke vs. cummins
I must add that my '97 CC 4X4 lwb, PowerStroke, 5 spd with 38" tires never got less than 15 except while towing my father's 38' Maxxum boat (10' 4" wide x 14'high x 44' long on trailer) weighing in at 14k lbs. Then I still got 9.8 MPG at a cruise control 65 MPH on a 330 mile trip with some serious hills.
But when a super-cab short bed, 4x2 EMPTY cummins vs the equivalent Ford, the cummins got 2-3 MPG better.
Under a load, there is no replacement for displacement!!!! Call me a freak, but if mileage is a consideration (not for buses) buy a manual transmission and hold the engine in it's most economical range and you will be very happy (especially passing those Cummins guys on the hills).
I am scared to see what the new Mercedes Benz and Caterpillar diesels are going to do the Dodge. The new 'Benz diesel is rumored to have nearly 800 ft lbs of torque through a manual only 7 speed trans. I understand around 7 liters of 6-cylinder, single turbo, dual overhead cams and 24 valves... Mercedes builds some of the finest diesels on the market and now that they own Dodge, it only seems intellegent that they put thier engines in thier trucks. I guess we'll just have to wait and see...
Lotsa luck!
But when a super-cab short bed, 4x2 EMPTY cummins vs the equivalent Ford, the cummins got 2-3 MPG better.
Under a load, there is no replacement for displacement!!!! Call me a freak, but if mileage is a consideration (not for buses) buy a manual transmission and hold the engine in it's most economical range and you will be very happy (especially passing those Cummins guys on the hills).
I am scared to see what the new Mercedes Benz and Caterpillar diesels are going to do the Dodge. The new 'Benz diesel is rumored to have nearly 800 ft lbs of torque through a manual only 7 speed trans. I understand around 7 liters of 6-cylinder, single turbo, dual overhead cams and 24 valves... Mercedes builds some of the finest diesels on the market and now that they own Dodge, it only seems intellegent that they put thier engines in thier trucks. I guess we'll just have to wait and see...
Lotsa luck!
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