This has probably already been discussed over and over on this site but I am new to the site and don't know how to use the "search". Everytime I click on search it asks for my username and password then brings me back to the messageboard.

Anyway, I have a 2001 F-250 SD, SC(5.4l) that has some problems that I am trying to have resolved. If these aren't fixed I am looking into buying either a late model crew cab with a powerstroke or a Dodge 2500 with a cummins. (dare I bring this up) Anybody out there who has actually owned both and could give me some honest comparisons as far as quality, power, value, etc. it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanx for the input!!!!

 

Actually, its Cummins, no g

 

I just "fixed" it for him...

Neveragain, are you logged in prior to your search? Sounds like it's asking you to log in; you do; and then it puts you back to the main page. Once there, you should try your search again.

I will say that over on [link:www.ford-diesel.com| FD.com] in one of the conferences (general diesel, I think) there are some pretty good "debates" between owners. The [link:www.turbodieselregister.com|Turbo Diesel Register] is a Cummins dedicated site that should give you some good info, too.

Both are great engines, the Dodge's tranny sucks. If two basically identically equipped (with 6 speeds) trucks were parked side by side and I could choose one for free, I'd take the

 

Monsta,

I kept logging in and it brought me back to the message board. I am on someone else's computer and "cookies" were diabled so it would not let me post.

Thanks

 

Here's my experience with new vehicles. I have never gotten one off the lot with zero problems before it had 5k miles on it. My 96 GM had electrical problemos (gremlins). My 97 dodge had computer problems, seats came loose, brakes squeeled. My 98 Ford had tranny problems, they had to replace it under warranty the first month, dash rattled, etc. I just went and became a thorn in the service managers side until things were fixed. (I also documented everthing and sent them copies and uttered the words "lemon law" a few times)

In my opinion your best bet is go vent at the dealer. Tell them your frustrations. Show up every day after work until they get you taken care of. I for one know that ANY brand can deliver a lemon and it IS the dealers obligation AND purpose to make it right. Hec, if its not there job to take care of you than what are they there for!

I'd hate to see you take a loss on the SD and then get another brand and end up in the same position. (such would be my luck ) Don't ask me how much I lost buying new vehicles every year... :/

Although from your previous posts... Heres what I would do.

1.) Vent at dealer until they cry
2.) Then offer this as a solution; they offer you a tremendous deal on a trade up to a V10 or PSD, to shut you up and get you to stop scaring off there customers.
3.) Drive home in your new truck.


If the new truck still has problems. Well, I owe you a sixpack. You pick the brand.

 

I rented a 2001 Dodge 3500 cummins 4X4 to tow my boat from Atlanta to Miami. When I got back, I bought a 1999 Ford F 350 Power Stroke. I was well satisfied on both accounts. Consumer guide rates Ford a best buy not Dodge, and it has 55 more lbs of torque. Need I say more??

M

 

i am pretty sure that fords have a higher resale value. you could also check out this site i stumbled across

www.pavementsucks.com

there seems to be alot of cummins and powerstroke drivers there.


-nathan

 

I have driven untold amounts of powerstroke ambulances and work trucks and My brother owns a cummins. ( He also works for them ) Even though he will swear until the day he dies that his big bad dodge(NOT)and it's cummins are unbeatable remember a couple of things:

1. Even my brother will admit... Cummins are not cold runners they are good for running long and hard all day long. They arn't the best when they first start up, and are just OK for stop and go. (all the cummins not just the "b" model that comes in the p/u

2. The cummins was not designed for the pick-up it was a light duty diesel designed for multiple use. Dodge just put one in the truck and made a wiring harness that works with thier vehicle and the computer they use isn't a cummins computer dodge made it. The Powerstroke was designed to use in the pick-ups not borrowed.

 

I drive a bluebird bus and it has the 5.9 cummins and if it wern't for all the little problems it would be good. like injecters, injector pump, injector lines, and bad fuel milage. which is probably because it take s forever to get up to speed. its the last one we will order, unless the start putting the international engine in it. I own an 01 PSD and I love it a whole lot more.

 

>I have driven untold amounts of powerstroke ambulances and
>work trucks and My brother owns a cummins. ( He also works
>for them ) Even though he will swear until the day he dies
>that his big bad dodge(NOT)and it's cummins are unbeatable
>remember a couple of things:
>
>1. Even my brother will admit... Cummins are not cold
>runners they are good for running long and hard all day
>long. They arn't the best when they first start up, and are
>just OK for stop and go. (all the cummins not just the "b"
>model that comes in the p/u
>
>2. The cummins was not designed for the pick-up it was a
>light duty diesel designed for multiple use. Dodge just put
>one in the truck and made a wiring harness that works with
>thier vehicle and the computer they use isn't a cummins
>computer dodge made it. The Powerstroke was designed to use
>in the pick-ups not borrowed.


Ughhh, check your facts please. The PSD in original form was forklift motor!!! The PSD history was as much an industrial powerplant as a Cummins. The Cummins, due to a few design features, is a more durable unit(replaceable cylinder sleeves for one)Both motors, properly maintainesd will out last their respective trucks.

I also drive many PSD's in our EMS system.......so glad to get into my V10 after a 24 hour shift!!!

 

Yes, both have their good points and bad points.

So, buy what you like, maintain it, and the body and all the other parts will slowly rot away to nothing before the engine lets go.

 

I'm not a big diesel fan, but here's my thoughts. I think that both engines are good and have plenty of power for a pick-up. I think I would be looking more at which vehicle will be able to hold up the best to the engine's power. I've heard a lot of things about the cummins being to powerful for dodge's components, but maybe they've got that fixed by now. But you did say you were looking for at a crew cab Ford. You might want to think about how much you want that extra room cause you can't get a crew cab dodge, just extended cab. I think it's something you'll have to think about and figure out which one fit's your needs and maybe budget. Of course, I'd go with the Ford without thinking, but that's just me (and probably everybody else on this board)

 

>>I've heard a lot of things about the cummins being to
>powerful for dodge's components, but maybe they've got that
>fixed by now.


No they still break the auto tranny stuck behind them. The manual is the way to go with the Dodge.

As far as everything else, it's really hard to fault a Dana 60 front and Dana 80! rear. Sorry guys, I have always liked the 2500/3500 Cummins equipped Dodges.

 

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 30-Mar-02 AT 10:30 AM (EST)]IMHO the Cummins is a great trailer puller, easy to "bomb" into a hotrod, easy to work on, and easy on fuel (in the pick-up configuration). Unfortunately, it's in a Dog, uh er, Dodge truck.
It is also VERY noisy, unless that doesn't bother you. If you go Dodge, get the manual tranny as the auto is a POS.
The PSD is a little harder to work on and is going through a major changeover next year. It is also wrapped in a SD package which should give you a better overall configuration...again, only my HO

 

>>It is also VERY noisy,


Noise?? I always considered it music...