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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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monster, maybe they have went along with the accord more out of fear OF the US?? Like I siad, you gotta start somewhere, dont you? Getting more and more things changed to the advatage of everyone will take monumentous effort, theres no doubt there, and yes the wedge in the wheel is the money influence. But this doesnt mean we should stop trying to make improvements, even if they are considered by some to be baby steps.
 
Old Jul 21, 2004 | 01:08 PM
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Carlene, you're the mod here now?
Nope - just helping out a little until we can get the position filled. I hope that's not a problem.
 
Old Jul 21, 2004 | 01:18 PM
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DesMoines, everytime I think of DesMoines I have to chuckle. Heres a little story...I was driving out here to California back in 81 from Pennsylvania and I had a 14' Reticulated Python that got sick and croaked on me on my return trip out here. Well, we stayed that night at a little motel in DesMoines, so I just put the snake in the dumpster there. We laughed about that for several days afterward when we think of the face on the guy emptying that dumpster, hes probably still running today! I have to agree that the west coast i pretty clogged up with people, it is too bad everyone piles up in one location. When my bro from back east was out the last time, he made a great observation about the SF bay area, he said the weather is nearly ideal, the diversity of the geography and things to do and see is fantastic, now if you could just get rid of all of these people!
 

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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 01:22 PM
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Nope - just helping out a little until we can get the position filled. I hope that's not a problem.
Not at all. What happened to Ryan? Tell Ken I'll mod for him if he wants. At least he'll get a good laugh of that.
 
Old Jul 21, 2004 | 01:33 PM
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So, monster, I would guess that with the HP your pumping out of this 351, your spinning some pretty high rpm? How does that gearing change help you in the mud? Is it for out of the hole power?
 
Old Jul 21, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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So, monster, I would guess that with the HP your pumping out of this 351, your spinning some pretty high rpm? How does that gearing change help you in the mud? Is it for out of the hole power?
well the gearing is for getting it up into the power range faster, even with the 4500 stall it still is alittle sluggish when the mud is thick, so I need to get the rpm's up, and into a higher gear faster, I shift at 7200, and have a 7600 limit chip in it.
 
Old Jul 21, 2004 | 01:44 PM
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Is there issues with tranny heat or are you just not running it long enough at a time for it to matter with that high of a stall? Have you busted up many engines or are they holding up pretty well? I worked in a machine shop many years ago,the shops primary function was manufacuring drag racing aluminum hemi heads, it was pretty cool, it was also pretty amazing how many pieces these guys could scatter the engines into.
 
Old Jul 21, 2004 | 01:53 PM
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Is there issues with tranny heat or are you just not running it long enough at a time for it to matter with that high of a stall? Have you busted up many engines or are they holding up pretty well? I worked in a machine shop many years ago,the shops primary function was manufacuring drag racing aluminum hemi heads, it was pretty cool, it was also pretty amazing how many pieces these guys could scatter the engines into.
I am running a derale trans cooler with a fan, and it seems to be keeping it fairly cool even with the transbrake, the highest I have seen it was 190, but I also run royal purple synthetic trans fluid, and I think that helps alot plus I really think those coolers work better than alot of them. As far as my engines I ran the 302 for 2 yrs, but I spun a rod bearing on the cleve last month but should have it back together this weekend (the shop said they will have it balanced by fri.), and actually it will be a 302C for now, and I will run it that way for the rest of this year and probably atleast part of next year, I am in the process of getting the pieces together to build a 393 stroker, that should be putting out around 670+hp without the nitrous
 
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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 02:16 PM
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Is the derale a stacked plate design? I'm putting a new transmission from Brians Truck Shop in my 94 , the E4OD (ha, the $ is right above the 4, how fitting for this transmission) that is in there now is taking a dump and I'm getting heat up to 240 in that poor thing. I'm tossing in the B&M stacked plate cooler with the electric fan too, so hopefully I wont have any future heat issues with the tranny. I've been running Redline synthetic, I also run the Precision Industries Stallion triple disc with a 2300 stall in this rig and really like the way it feels, I know this is producing some heat, but not the amount I'm experiencing. Cool , I like to hear of other 393's out there, have you checked mine out in my gallery? It just got popped in a few weeks ago. Whats the build on yours going to be? I would have to imagine your 393 will be spinning alot more rpm than mine, I'm pumping out jsut under 400 ponies. I am planning on plugging in a 200 HP shop of juice once everything is all broke in well, so would be very interested in your engine build and suggestions regarding the juice too.
 

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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 02:32 PM
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Wow, '94, if we dig deep enough, we can find something in common! Believe it or not, I recycle. My last month's power bill was $10.41, and I park my SD v-10 most of the time, drive a little putt-putt that gets 30 mpg. I do a little bit, but I also consume. What's it going to take to get Joe Average to do the little that I contribute? There's the rub. P.S. You don't expect me to believe the deal about your gas mileage when your picture shows a fuel pump the size of Missouri, do you?
 
Old Jul 21, 2004 | 02:38 PM
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yes the derale is a stacked plate design, I am not sure but I think the actual cooler is probably made by the same people, I run the derale because I got it with the fan attached from the company, one other thing that might help with mine is that it is in the bed (I think you can see it in my gallery on the right side of the bed), and depending on how much you use your bed or whatever that is a real good place to have it as it doesn't pick up any heat from the radiator, but I realize that usually isn't feasable with most street trucks.
I looked over your build, looks pretty good only have one question you mention KB forged pistons, are you sure they are forged or are they the hyperetics, if they are the hypers keep your rpms below 7k, the rest of that look really great. Wish I could afford the motorsport block that is definatly the way to go.
Mine will actually be a cleveland build, using a scat forged crank probably (don't have that yet) eagle Hbeam rods already have those, and probably either ross or JE pistons, and plan on running AFD cyl heads, with the funnel web intake (like on my current engine for the intake), and I am having my block sleeved on all 8 cyl. I will be running a custom solid roller cam from reed alittle healthier than the one I currently have which is dur @ .050 262int/268exh, and 644 lift on both lsa 107, my current heads are aussie 2v heads with 210int, 165exh delwest titanium valves running a mighty demon 825 right now (was running a predator but had some leaking problems) but on the new engine it is just a one piece as I can afford it, I have about $7500 in the current engine (if I had paid full price for everything it would have been 10k), and I don't figure the new ones gonna be any cheaper.
I hear ya about the cost of the trans, lucky me I am ASE master tech, and ATRA certified so I build, and modify my own.
 
Old Jul 21, 2004 | 02:41 PM
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Oh and on the juice if those are hyper pistons I really wouldn't run over 150shot at most and if your compression is over 9.5, I really wouldn't run any on it, but if you do make sure you put some kind of timing retard on it you really don't want to blow holes in pistons
 
Old Jul 21, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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camo, you recycle, really? Just kidding, its good to hear. There are alot of people that dont do much to contribute, true. But its really hard to determine how much some are contributing, you know? Hopefully someday everyone will feel more compelled, to really contribute to making our spaceship better, I think if we as individuals put alot of effort and truly worked on our elected officials about it that it will put more pressure on the gov to make businesses comply more. I really thought I would see less people out "recreating" with the high cost of fuel, but that doesnt appear to have happened yet. Seriously, my former Bronco got 9-10 MPG out on the road staight out of the box when I bought it, and it only had 16k on it at the time. I did a complete tune up, etc, still the same mpg and not enough hp to move that tank either. After the 408 was completed, I ended up getting 16 out of it, I was surprised too, but you dident need to floor it then to keep up with a Hundai either. Now if you put your foot into it and utilized that fuel pump the size of Maine (not quite Missouri size, only capable of 1100gph), well, she could drain a tanker of petrol then. 10.41 for your power bill? Wow, that truely is admirable, congrats there.

Monster, your engine lower end sounds pretty similar to mine. The only diff is the piston mfg. I wanted the JE's again in this motor, but they did not have a off the shelf .040 for use with the TFS heads, so I dident feel like waitng another 3 months and deceided to try KB's new forged design, since I dident want to go with the Hyper pistons with the future plans for juice. The compression on this ended up being around 9.3 I believe, I will still probably run a timing retard box on there. I ran the Crane box with the retard on the Broncwith the 408 / Supercharger and it seemed to do OK. I was curious as to other boxes like the Jacobs? What kinda cylinder heads are going to run? You mentioned AFD and I'm not familiar with that brand.

Hey Guys, we gotta get the guns back out, were going to loose readership this way, take a look at those #'s on this thread!

camo, you cant seriously think that allowing land owners to clear cut is a good idea, now really, can you? It is one of the most destructive business practices out there. It just doesnt make sense, its much more viable to selective log, no I'm not saying no logging, yes I do use wood and paper. But I would not consider clear cutting "forestry management" by any stretch of the imagination.
 

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Old Jul 21, 2004 | 03:14 PM
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I run the msd 6al box with a start/retard box, and it seems to work pretty well, I didn't realize KB had come out with a forged pistons, do you happen to know how much those things weigh, they might be worth a look although will probably still end up with the others but you never know, and 9.3 comp, and the fuel system you have, with the retard box it should handle 200hp with ease.
As far as the heads check out the web site below, and I am looking at the 4v heads
http://www.airflowdynamics.com.au/cleve2V.html
 
Old Jul 21, 2004 | 03:21 PM
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Ok lets get the guns out we can't loose our ratings, and viewers. OH come on you can't really believe the goverment should be able to tell people what they can, and can't do with thier own land do you, I agree that clear cutting public lands should not be allowed but alot of this land that then activist want to stop logging on is private land, and groups like sierra club just want to take away as much private land as they can, and lock everyone out of any, and all public lands, and I definatly think that some logging not only should be allowed on public lands but should be required for forest health, selective logging, and replanting helps reduce fires, and bieng in CA you should definatly understand the need for fire control
 



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