I have been searching for any wiring diagrams or instructions for installing a clutch kill switch. I have searched on this forum and on f-d.com to no avail. any help would be greatly appreciated. If anyone with this information would like to post any pics or instructions, I can do so on my website. You will get full credit, I am just interested in getting the information for myself and anyone else who needs/wants it. Thanks in advance.:+

 

I am also interested in the mod. Just bookmarking!

 

Just going through your post and your questions confused me.
I though all clutches had a not start switch on them.?
Are you wanting a kill switch for auto theft deterrent?
please explain your intended use.
gseeders

 

That is exactly what we are wanting information on. All modern clutch systems will not allow the driver to turn on the truck until the clutch is depressed. There is a method in which a toggle switch can be inserted into the wiring system for this clutch system that will enable the owner to keep the truck from starting unless the switch is activated and the clutch depressed. I know that it has been done before by a couple of people who post here and at f-d.com and I am hoping that they find this post (one of them already has and is looking for the information) and reply here for everyone to have the information.

Prostang

 

[updated:LAST EDITED ON 12-Jun-02 AT 03:47 AM (EST)]

Ok, here is what you do. at the clutch switch there is two wires cut one of them,run a wire from one end of the cut wire to the toggle switch, now run another wire from the other cut wire to the other side of toggle switch. your done!

It will not matter which wire you cut at the clutch switch.
only cut one of the wires.
I would cut the wire away for the clutch switch so its not apparent what your doing.


over and out
gseeders

 

any idea if this will set off any codes?

 

I have never heard of a trouble code wired to a clutch switch,
I have clutch switches go bad and have never had a trouble code.


If you want proof, unplug the switch,If you get a service light to come on then it will,if not then it won't.

If you get a trouble code,in which I truly don't think you will,but if you do disconnect the battery for a few minutes. This will clear any codes stored in the computer.

 

thanks for the info gseeders.

 

Hi gseeders....

Will this work on an automatic as well? My beloved truck sits on the street in front of my house because it will not fit in the garage.

I would like to add a toggle switch that will prevent the truck from being taken out of park.

Thanks for the information. :7

Steve

 

what good would this do a theif can just go underneath and jumper the starter with a screwdriver??


>I would like to add a toggle switch that will prevent the truck from being taken out of park.

Something that would make this idea pointless is that you can shift out of park without pushing the brake pedal, by only turning the key part way but not too much were you get dash lights to come on. then put it in nuetral and start.

(I'm not tring to "P" anyone off here just getting this out)
(And go ahead and correct me if I'm wrong)

 

You can use the fuel fump relay in this same toggle application and that would stop a theft cold! If someone really wan't you vehicle and has the smarts, They will get it. but in general I don't think that all thiefs are smart.

Now for the automatic application. yes it will work, the neutral safety switch is off the same principle.

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gseeders

 

>what good would this do a theif can just go underneath and
>jumper the starter with a screwdriver??

use to work just fine on older cars without lock steering wheels

I think that most car thefts just pop the ignition and use a screwdriver and go. The toggle switch is to disable the clutch switch which would prevent the vehicle from starting.

>>I would like to add a toggle switch that will prevent the truck >from being taken out of park.

The toggle switch is not to prevent the truck from being taken out of park but to disable the switch thus preventing the vehicle from starting.
Have you ever tried to start you vehicle in gear? Won't work because of this switch.

>Something that would make this idea pointless is that you
>can shift out of park without pushing the brake pedal, by
>only turning the key part way but not too much were you get
>dash lights to come on. then put it in nuetral and start.

If the switch is disabled then it won't start. Doesn't matter what position the key is in or what position the gear shift lever is in.

>(I'm not tring to "P" anyone off here just getting this out)
>(And go ahead and correct me if I'm wrong)

your not "p" me off / corrections made!

you can have a $600.00 alarm system, doesn't always protect what you have!
The toggle switch method is very cheap, and very affective..
These methods are just this (DETERRENTS).
If it stops just one theft,then its worth it. hopefully most of us will never have to go through the experience.

over and out
gseeders

 

Ok, more questions.

>Have you ever tried to start you vehicle in gear? Won't work because >of this switch.
Have you tried starting you vehicle in neutral? You can, I've done it. Others I know have done it.

And back to the manual transmisions. Has any one heard of poping the clutch? I'm sure most of us can do that.

I like the fuel pump cut off idea the best.

 

>Ok, more questions.
>
>>Have you ever tried to start you vehicle in gear? Won't work because >of this switch.
>Have you tried starting you vehicle in neutral? You can,
>I've done it. Others I know have done it.

My 2001 power stroke with the R4100 auto tranny has a digital transmission range sensor. It will only start in park and neutral. If you disable this sensor, YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO START THE VEHICLE.
The starting circuit is wired through this sensor. Disable the sensor and you effectively disabled the starting circuit. Later model vehicles use a neutral safty switch, this is of the same principal as the (DTR) sensor.

>And back to the manual transmisions. Has any one heard of
>poping the clutch? I'm sure most of us can do that.

Now you have us pushig a 7000# to 8000# plus truck! HAHA!!

>I like the fuel pump cut off idea the best.

These are not my ideas. I have just been around awhile and have seen a few things. I didn't start this post, someone ask and I responded. you can "would if and all of that" all day long but it still won't change the fact that these ideas will work,some better than other. These ideas are not full proof, and I don't think that everyone thinks that thay are. "There just deterrents"

If I was a professional car/truck theif I would have a wheel lift on the back of truck and within a minute I would be gone with the vehicle without starting anything.

got to go
over and out
gseeders