Installing New Ring and Pinion
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Laughing Gas
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Installing New Ring and Pinion
Now it's my turn to ask for some BIG help! I have rebuilt automatic transmissions, and replaced drop-out style Ford rear ends. But I have never replaced the ring and pinion alone.
I have a 1997 HD van (E-350 CWXLT) with a 4.10 standard axle (Dana 60). The dealer tells me the ring and pinion are shot ergo the whine, even after I paid 500 bucks to a shop to work it over. They replaced the bearings and races, but the whine never went away. They assured me the r and p were still good. But the dealer says otherwise.
Now, the dealer wants 2,100 bucks to do it, and I choked on that. So, my question is since I have decided to replace them myself (I can get a set new for about $300)---- how difficult is it to get these things in and set right? I assume it has to be done in the car and not on the bench like the old Ford drop-outs. Any tips on getting the lash right the first time? Any special tools needed? (Besides impacts, etc.)
Any help will be greatly appreciated!!
I have a 1997 HD van (E-350 CWXLT) with a 4.10 standard axle (Dana 60). The dealer tells me the ring and pinion are shot ergo the whine, even after I paid 500 bucks to a shop to work it over. They replaced the bearings and races, but the whine never went away. They assured me the r and p were still good. But the dealer says otherwise.
Now, the dealer wants 2,100 bucks to do it, and I choked on that. So, my question is since I have decided to replace them myself (I can get a set new for about $300)---- how difficult is it to get these things in and set right? I assume it has to be done in the car and not on the bench like the old Ford drop-outs. Any tips on getting the lash right the first time? Any special tools needed? (Besides impacts, etc.)
Any help will be greatly appreciated!!
Last edited by pops_91710; Apr 19, 2004 at 10:10 PM.
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From: Heart of Dixie
NEVER USE AN IMPACT PUTTING A REAR END TOGETHER. New ring gear shims & pinion crush collar will be needed.
Only 3/4 hand ratchet & torque wrench. Yes you will have to use the proper setup tools. dial indicators etc...
those 10.5 rear ends have been REAL touchy about being properly set up... My next door neighbor has a f350 that has had the rear built twice already (less than 30K miles). under warranty.
Add some Lucas Oils rear end additive and let it ride.
Only 3/4 hand ratchet & torque wrench. Yes you will have to use the proper setup tools. dial indicators etc...
those 10.5 rear ends have been REAL touchy about being properly set up... My next door neighbor has a f350 that has had the rear built twice already (less than 30K miles). under warranty.
Add some Lucas Oils rear end additive and let it ride.
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http://www.ring-pinion.com/index.html
Checkt out the tech library at Randy's.
This should help.
-J-R-
Checkt out the tech library at Randy's.
This should help.
-J-R-
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Hey Yakk, That site was very helpful! Thanks a bunch!
An impact wrench is never used for assembly of precision parts. I was referring to pulling axles, pinion nuts and such.
You all have been helpful. Blue Mule, I got a question for you. I work for a large supermarket company and we own a huge fleet of trucks. The fellows in the shop tell me to use Torco Gear oil. I have heard Lucas is great also.
They were saying to hell with the whine, put a good oil in it and drive it. Truthfully, I am tempted to do just that. It's not loud at all, it's just that I can hear it and I know what it means.
When you said: "Add some Lucas Oils rear end additive and let it ride", did you mean instead of pulling out the R&P now?
An impact wrench is never used for assembly of precision parts. I was referring to pulling axles, pinion nuts and such.
You all have been helpful. Blue Mule, I got a question for you. I work for a large supermarket company and we own a huge fleet of trucks. The fellows in the shop tell me to use Torco Gear oil. I have heard Lucas is great also.
They were saying to hell with the whine, put a good oil in it and drive it. Truthfully, I am tempted to do just that. It's not loud at all, it's just that I can hear it and I know what it means.
When you said: "Add some Lucas Oils rear end additive and let it ride", did you mean instead of pulling out the R&P now?
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Yep, instead of pulling the R&P out, since a certified mechanice has already put a new one in, that's what i'd do. Leave well enough alone, just change to Torco or Lucas Gear oil, and let it ride.
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