lucas oil Stablizer
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lucas oil Stablizer
I just added 1 pint of Lucas Oil Stablizer to my 150k 98 Explorer 5.0 AWD. Whatever was causing the slight, what i thought to be lifter ticking, is gone after only driving a mile. 
I am totally shocked, amazed and happy. Anyone have any similar stories or am i just blowing smoke up my own tailpipe. This stuff seems to be a magic bottle--anyone have bad results with Lucas?
I am totally shocked, amazed and happy. Anyone have any similar stories or am i just blowing smoke up my own tailpipe. This stuff seems to be a magic bottle--anyone have bad results with Lucas?
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It probably thickened the oil enough that the oil pressure came up enough that it allowed the lifters to pump up properly. Or it cusioned the timing chain enough that it stopped rattling.
That said, the popular theory is that it's nothing more than rebottled gear oil. Some components may be used in different quantities, but the MSDS shows that the ingredients are the same.
I dont think it'll hurt anything, particularly in the amount you used, but I think standard gear oil is a cheap alternative.
That said, the popular theory is that it's nothing more than rebottled gear oil. Some components may be used in different quantities, but the MSDS shows that the ingredients are the same.
I dont think it'll hurt anything, particularly in the amount you used, but I think standard gear oil is a cheap alternative.
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Originally Posted by rusty70f100
It probably thickened the oil enough that the oil pressure came up enough that it allowed the lifters to pump up properly. Or it cusioned the timing chain enough that it stopped rattling.
That said, the popular theory is that it's nothing more than rebottled gear oil. Some components may be used in different quantities, but the MSDS shows that the ingredients are the same.
I dont think it'll hurt anything, particularly in the amount you used, but I think standard gear oil is a cheap alternative.
That said, the popular theory is that it's nothing more than rebottled gear oil. Some components may be used in different quantities, but the MSDS shows that the ingredients are the same.
I dont think it'll hurt anything, particularly in the amount you used, but I think standard gear oil is a cheap alternative.
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no, acutally rusty its not rebottled gear oil people have tried it before with diffrenct results. as its says on the bottle its 100% petrolum i have used it and it helps with noise and my oil stays cleaner longer. some addtives will hurt you engine this is not one of them. truckers use lucas in there engines that see a million miles and from there personal experinece it makes a big diffrence in oil pressure, engine noise, engine longevity, oil life. go ahead and dump some gear oil in your crankcase and see what happnes its not the same as lucas.
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Fine. I'll post the MSDS's. Not all gear oil is the same, remember that. I've got some 80w90 mystik that does NOT have the usual gear oil smell, it kind of smells sweet.
Lucas oil stabilizer
Mystik JT-7 80w90 Gear Oil - Note the hazardous combustion products on page 3. It has sulpher too.
Note the decomposition products in the oil stabilizer. "Oxides of Phosphorus from burning. Oxides of Sulpher." THESE ARE THE ACTIVE INGREDIENTS IN GEAR OIL. Obviously it DOES have sulpher in it.
I suggest you do the research before you say I'm full of ****.
Lucas oil stabilizer
Mystik JT-7 80w90 Gear Oil - Note the hazardous combustion products on page 3. It has sulpher too.
Note the decomposition products in the oil stabilizer. "Oxides of Phosphorus from burning. Oxides of Sulpher." THESE ARE THE ACTIVE INGREDIENTS IN GEAR OIL. Obviously it DOES have sulpher in it.
I suggest you do the research before you say I'm full of ****.
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actually i have done research on it. you are jumping to conclusions because the oil stabilizer has got SOME of the ingredeints that gear oil has. just becaue an oil additive has 30W oil as a carrier doeant mean it is oil. like i said before dump some gear oil into your engine and see what happens.
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Been there, done that. It quieted it down. Old '92 explorer w/190,000 miles with a little piston slap. 1/2 quart of gear oil substituted for 1/2 quart of oil on the oil change eliminates the piston slap. Ran it for 3000 miles with no problems. 15w40 also eliminates it, though.
Did you even click the links I posted? Lucas has sulpher. Sulpher is used in EP additives in gear oil. I know of no other use for it in an oil product. Same with phosphorus. Now if sulpher is the only point of contention of why gear oil will hurt an engine, then lucas will hurt it too. Period.
That said, I dont believe that EITHER belong in an engine. I tried the gear oil as a stopgap measure, and a test. It worked good. It did make my engine quieter. However, I dont run it every oil change, as I think the piston slap is minimal enough to not cause a problem. Besides, it's getting a rebuild at 200,000 anyway.
BTW, I never said that it definately was repackaged gear oil. I said that was the going theory. I've heard it before elsewhere, and read it on this board before.
Did you even click the links I posted? Lucas has sulpher. Sulpher is used in EP additives in gear oil. I know of no other use for it in an oil product. Same with phosphorus. Now if sulpher is the only point of contention of why gear oil will hurt an engine, then lucas will hurt it too. Period.
That said, I dont believe that EITHER belong in an engine. I tried the gear oil as a stopgap measure, and a test. It worked good. It did make my engine quieter. However, I dont run it every oil change, as I think the piston slap is minimal enough to not cause a problem. Besides, it's getting a rebuild at 200,000 anyway.
BTW, I never said that it definately was repackaged gear oil. I said that was the going theory. I've heard it before elsewhere, and read it on this board before.
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yes i clicked them. fact is there is no eviedence that lucas is pure gear oil it only has some of the ingreinedents. sulper or no sulpher lucas doeseant hurt engines truckers have used it for years over millions of miles and it has only been shown to help engines. there is a big difference between labatory tests and real world tests, lucas has come thourgh as an addtive that improvses lubrication and extends oil life. period. this debate sucks it is so old and no one ever agrees so im done arguing on it.
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I suggest you do the research before you say I'm full of ****.[/QUOTE]
Please don't assume that I said you are full of ****. I never said that. I said these products are diffrent from each other. For one thing Lucas oil will have detergents in it to keep the dirt under suspension until it reaches the oil filter. If the gear oil had the same detergents in it contamination would still be under suspension thereby causing more wear than just settling out and causing sludge. Do you know that back in the old days, before oil filters and oil pumps, that there was no detergents used in the oil? The wear issue is exactly why. Thanks for showing the MSDS. Yes, using it might help, but a rebuild is in order fairly soon.
Please don't assume that I said you are full of ****. I never said that. I said these products are diffrent from each other. For one thing Lucas oil will have detergents in it to keep the dirt under suspension until it reaches the oil filter. If the gear oil had the same detergents in it contamination would still be under suspension thereby causing more wear than just settling out and causing sludge. Do you know that back in the old days, before oil filters and oil pumps, that there was no detergents used in the oil? The wear issue is exactly why. Thanks for showing the MSDS. Yes, using it might help, but a rebuild is in order fairly soon.
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You're right, this debate does suck. I have my theory, and you have yours. Big deal. There's more to life than lucas oil stabilizer. If you use it and it works, then more power to you. I think it's a rip off, and only oil of the right viscosity belongs in the crankcase, but oh well. I can see this isn't going anywhere.
