Notices

Small/Big Block?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 27, 2004 | 10:54 PM
  #1  
Saurian's Avatar
Saurian
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,155
Likes: 3
From: Centerville, Iowa
Small/Big Block?

I have a bit of a stupid question. I just...don't know the answer, just some generalities between the two.

What's the difference between a Small block and a Big block?
 
Reply
Old Mar 27, 2004 | 11:56 PM
  #2  
Blurry94's Avatar
Blurry94
Moderator
20 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,547
Likes: 71
From: Calhoun GA
Club FTE Gold Member
In a nutshell.....big blocks (generally) have more cubic inches than a small. the block, pistons, crank, rods, heads, intake etc...are larger than a small block. To put it bluntly....a big block is basically a small block on steriods.
 
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2004 | 01:56 AM
  #3  
Torque1st's Avatar
Torque1st
Posting Legend
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 30,255
Likes: 37
Those are old Chevy terms that have entered the language. Ford uses engine "Families".
 
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2004 | 02:05 AM
  #4  
3eggOmelet's Avatar
3eggOmelet
Junior User
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 94
Likes: 0
From: College Station, TX
Post

The biggest issue is weight and overall size. A big-block is a larger engine and may take some squeezing to fit it into a car/truck made for a small-block. The advantage to a big block is that the larger size allows larger bores and longer stroke for more displacement (cubic inches).

It is possible with certain small-blocks to get the best of both worlds. A good example is the 351 Windsor Ford small-block. It is of the same block family as the 302 (5.0) and 289 V8 small-blocks. The 351W can be stroked (extending the amount of overall travel of the piston in the cylinder) and bored (changing the width of the cylinder) to get over 425 cubic inches which puts it into the category of a medium size big-block as far as displacement goes.

For comparison the old popular Ford big-block is the 460, which can also be bored and stroked to well over 500 cubic inches. But big-blocks don't always need to have big cubic inches to be a big-block; The Ford 352 is about the same displacement as the 351W but had a much larger, heavier block since it is part of the FE family of big-blocks.
 
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2004 | 02:49 PM
  #5  
Saurian's Avatar
Saurian
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,155
Likes: 3
From: Centerville, Iowa
See, I knew all those generalities, and the boring/stroking of the engines. I just didn't know if there were any definitative criteria that denoted that an engine would be a Big Block.

I however didn't know that a 351 could achieve 425 ci's! Good god...give me that stroker crank. I still prefer to have a huge bore and a shorter stroke (revvier) but...*shrug* that's still alot of engine...
 
Reply
Old Mar 28, 2004 | 08:57 PM
  #6  
78fordman's Avatar
78fordman
Cargo Master
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 2,833
Likes: 4
From: Jefferson, Iowa
From what i understand, if the stroke is larger than the bore size, it is a small block, and if the stroke is smaller than the bore, it is a big block, pretty sure thats the way it goes. I just have them memorized though:
FE big block
385 series big block
Winsor series small block
Modified series Small block
240 - 300 just a tough little motor with gobs or torque
 
Reply
Old Mar 29, 2004 | 01:07 AM
  #7  
Torque1st's Avatar
Torque1st
Posting Legend
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 30,255
Likes: 37
That does not compute.

302 b=4.00 s=3.00
351W/C/M b=4.00 s=3.50
352 b=4.00 s=3.50
390 b=4.05 s=3.78
400 b=4.00 s=4.00
428 b=4.13 s=3.98
429 b=4.36 s=3.59
460 b=4.36 s=3.85

Your memory serves you well tho.

I made a post in GC once about big/small block designations and compared some dimensions both Ford and GM and if memory serves me it came down to bore spacing.
 
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2004 | 05:06 PM
  #8  
Saurian's Avatar
Saurian
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 2,155
Likes: 3
From: Centerville, Iowa
Ahh..so it has to do with the distance between each individual cylinder. That would seem to make sense - as well as just the whole bigger size thing. I knew it wasn't based on just size though - cause you could have about as big a size you wanted with a smallblock. Conversly..you could have a 220 ci smallblock in a commercial vehicle that was ready to be bored more often to extend its life cycle.

Thanks guys.

Another question - on Chevy's.

What are big blocks and small blocks in their lines? is the 454 bb? 512? 612?
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-2

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-6

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-9

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
Old Mar 30, 2004 | 06:25 PM
  #9  
rusty70f100's Avatar
rusty70f100
Post Fiend
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,600
Likes: 4
From: Iowa
Originally Posted by Torque1st
That does not compute.

302 b=4.00 s=3.00
351W/C/M b=4.00 s=3.50
352 b=4.00 s=3.50
390 b=4.05 s=3.78
400 b=4.00 s=4.00
428 b=4.13 s=3.98
429 b=4.36 s=3.59
460 b=4.36 s=3.85

Your memory serves you well tho.

I made a post in GC once about big/small block designations and compared some dimensions both Ford and GM and if memory serves me it came down to bore spacing.
You forgot the 427! b=4.23 s=3.78

OBTW, what would you call this?
534 b=4.5 s=4.2
Extra big block perhapse?
 
Reply
Old Mar 30, 2004 | 08:36 PM
  #10  
fordeverpower's Avatar
fordeverpower
Postmaster
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 3,934
Likes: 0
From: iowa
can you really believe a guy who uses duct tape to fix everything on his red green show!
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
jmikeyj4
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
19
Nov 12, 2010 04:54 AM
reifwj
1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
4
Apr 10, 2008 04:35 PM
89ford73
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
6
Sep 15, 2007 04:02 PM
77fordguy
General Automotive Discussion
17
Aug 3, 2005 11:04 PM
MuscleMachine
General Automotive Discussion
15
Jun 4, 2004 07:00 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:22 PM.

story-0
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-1
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-2
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-3
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-5
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-8
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE