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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 05:52 PM
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Higher compression heads now I got falve float

Greetings, My 1986 F150 302 efi, C4 manual valve body shorty headers and now highrer compression heads is done. I have valve float at high reves, may this be caused by more HP than the valve springs were ment to take? Do I need to replave them with stiffer springs?
 
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 06:01 PM
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I would think so.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 06:34 PM
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rear end gears

I was thinking that maybe because of the high geared rear end based on the granny geared borg warner that the ratio is causing the problem. Since it is now history and the C4 is just straight forward
 
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 07:34 AM
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High compression heads or horsepower have nothing to do with valve float!
Exceeding the RPM limit or weakness of the valve springs causes the valves to not seat quick enough for the engine's speed resulting in valve float (popping, misfireing, or backfireing at high RPM)
Bad, weak or improper ignition components can display the same symptoms.
Talk with the cam manufacturer or your local machine shop as to the correct springs for the application.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 09:00 AM
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Some machine shops can check your springs to see if they are too weak.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 09:23 AM
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No Backfire

Thanks for the ideas, I have no backfire associated with this but it sounds like a bunch of 5 lb marbles hitting each other real fast and as soon as I let up on the gas it goes away.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 02:06 PM
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This sounds like spark knock to me now. Valve float will cause a skip while the valves are not closing fast enough.
 
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The knock sensor is new, I guess some code info is in order
 
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The timing might be set too high or you may need a higher octane gas. Just a thought.
 
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Ya know I did put a 56 mm throttle body on the truck maybe it needs to be advanced a bit, good thought..
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 04:40 PM
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try 104 octane boost with your gas works good
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 04:46 PM
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i had an old chev 305 that used to do that and it was the cam. It only did that if i juiced it sounds like the fourth of july.ha ha if u checked everybodys replies and nothing. then check the cam. sounds like the cam lobes are wearing out .good luck
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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If you are experiencing knocking, you need to back off the timing, not advance it. The higher compression is a likely culprit. Where is your initial timing at now?
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 05:18 PM
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Well I never changed the timing from when I took the stock engine apart which is no doubt the issue
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 05:20 PM
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I just want to say that I'm impressed with the ideas and responses I am getting from this post..Thanks guys

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