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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 02:09 AM
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engine temp vs MPG's

my engine is a 73 390.. 2 bbl.

if an engine this size runs really cool all the time, does it effect the gas mileage? It never overheats so i dont question it much, but I was wondering if I did something to get the engine to run hotter if that would improve the MPG's.


or does it have nothing to do with it in the end?
 
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 08:05 AM
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Hi,

Well I'm not sure if gas milage will be effected but I have read enough to convince me that engine wear WILL be affected. I run a 195* stat.

The engine will wear faster if not up to temp.

Good luck,
 
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 09:42 AM
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2Mouse, yes your engine temp affects the fuel economy. It also affects how fast the engine wears. The effect of running too cold will have a much bigger impact on longevity than fuel economy, I don't know if you would even notice the differance in mileage without some very careful testing. But I run a 205* stat in everything,just to get the longest engine life. DF
 
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Old Mar 20, 2004 | 01:03 PM
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I went from a 160 to a 195, it seems to run a bit better, but, it makes under the hood MUCH hotter. I might go back to 160 for summer.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 12:44 AM
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my 85 nissan runs (always, even in 100 degree weather) no hotter than 160-170. its working on its 250k mark. Different engine different design on that one. this F250 runs about 160-180, i havent yet run it in the heat of summertime.

thanks for the info i didnt know cool would ruin the engines, i figured it didnt overheat it was better. I'll aim for 200 degrees.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2004 | 02:38 AM
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I run a 180* year round.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 12:18 AM
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I run a 180* all year. However, I also have an aluminum Griffin Radiator and Flex-a-lite electric fan setup on my FE. I have the fan temp set to turn on at 195*.

 
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 12:02 AM
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Re: engine temp vs MPG's

Originally posted by 2ndmouse
my engine is a 73 390.. 2 bbl.

if an engine this size runs really cool all the time, does it effect the gas mileage? It never overheats so i dont question it much, but I was wondering if I did something to get the engine to run hotter if that would improve the MPG's.
Yes, a hotter engine will get better mileage. The fuel will vaporize better, so you'll get a better burn.

Less heat will be lost from the combustion chamber to the water.

Also, the friction between the aluminum pistons and the iron cylinders is less in a 195^ engine than a 180^ engine.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 07:48 AM
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it depends on what defree thermostat your running what are you running mouse? i run 180 degree thermostat id say any thermostat would work as long as its 180 or above.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 10:40 AM
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Theoretically, the hotter you run an engine the more thermodynamically efficient it is and thus the most economy.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 03:00 AM
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Let me just state what I have seen happen. I have built engines and installed different thermostats in them. Every thermostat I have used never changed the operating temperatures. They have however changed the warm up time periods of my engines. Now maybe in a cooler climate there could be something else going on. Here in the south I have not observed what is being described in this thread.

What I see is the warmer climates never are cold enough to allow an engine to run too cool even with a 180 degree thermostat.

Maybe it is just me and the cars I have, but I just have a problem with the whole idea of engines running too cool with 180 degree thermostats.

Did I misunderstand that a thermostat opens completely when the coolant reaches the opening temperature of the thermostat? If it does then how can it regulate the maximum engine temperature under normal conditions?

I always thought they were just supposed to regulate an engines warm up time. LOL, I am not sure how I could be alone in thinking this.
 
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