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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 12:06 AM
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the pressurization problem has an easy solution: don't use bullets that have high velocities. for example, a .45 ACP shoots slowly enough that the bullet does not escape the body. while being a slow round, the gun nevertheless immobilizes or even kills in one shot because of the heavy bullet.
for a comparison, you shoot somebody with a 9mm inside a plane, and you can say bye-bye to the pressurization.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 12:23 AM
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Easy. they need to make the cockpit COMPLETELY airtight with its own A/C pressurization system, (they may have it alreay dont know about commrcial lines) something happens in the back, they hit the cargo Emer Depress button and VOILA cargo is depressurized, all passengers pass out....if you notify the flight attendants just prior, they can be on oxygen, and as the aircraft is unpressurized now, throw the offender out at his stop.....35k foot fall onto the radio ant. on the Empire state building.....
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 12:31 AM
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I thought chewing gum was for plugging holes in planes...
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 02:28 AM
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It is it has a cure check time of 6 hours. if it is still not dried, throw some duct tape on top of the gum.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 02:35 AM
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Some people just can't get it in their heads that guns are truly evil and you should not be allowed to touch one.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 03:00 PM
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Its a joke that the pilots have to pass an phsyc (sp?) test. Um hello, they are already in charge of a few hundred lives.

Plus they don't let just any ole person or pilot jump in and fly a jets. I think by that stage they have proved themselves.

Set cabin pressure to 15,000 ft and everyone will pass out. Classic trick for bush flying in Alaska when a trooper has a prisoner that won't calm down. Pilot gets oxygen from a bottle and the prisoner passes out. Works quite well.

As for TSA, well I've seen a bucket with no bottom hold more water. You want to save tax money, kill the TSA.
 

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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by Kannata
That pressurization thing is a pesky little problem alright.

Kannata

from fordmarshall111
"the pressurization problem has an easy solution: don't use bullets that have high velocities. for example, a .45 ACP shoots slowly enough that the bullet does not escape the body. while being a slow round, the gun nevertheless immobilizes or even kills in one shot because of the heavy bullet.
for a comparison, you shoot somebody with a 9mm inside a plane, and you can say bye-bye to the pressurization.'

Pressurization is not an issue with respect to small holes. A bullet hole will not cause a rapid decompression.


From 13hondacr250: "Set cabin pressure to 15,000 ft and everyone will pass out. Classic trick for bush flying in Alaska when a trooper has a prisoner that won't calm down. Pilot gets oxygen from a bottle and the prisoner passes out. Works quite well."

Nope, it doesn't work quite that way. Time of useful consciousness at 15000ft is definitely over 30 minutes and is considered to be indefinite according to this site http://www.halojumper.com/halobriefing.html#PHYSIOLOGY

Down at 15,000 feet, the crew should still be on oxygen, but passengers with normal physiology who are not using medications or alcohol should be safe from long-term injury from hypoxia, according to FAA regulations. Comes from here: http://aircraftbuyer.com/learn/train10.htm

and this: The time of useful consciousness without supplemental oxygen at 21,000 is approximately 8 minutes. We calculate that the jumpers are exposed to or environment without sufficient oxygen for l min, 40 Sec. This is based on the jumpers removing their masks and exiting the aircraft within l minute and a freefall time of 40 seconds to 15,000', where the time of useful consciousness is considered indefinite. From here: http://www.afn.org/skydive/sta/wts-hab.html
 
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Old Mar 22, 2004 | 10:21 PM
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feddoc,

Your right. But at 15,000 it will calm you right down though not always make you pass out. I do 13,000 frequently and I take the oxygen. Hard to think clearly above that for prolonged periods.

Take a hit of oxygen and wow! The instrument panel lights come back on. From the number of pilots that have told me this 15,000 will calm people down enough to make a nice flight. Since most bush planes can't really go much above this altitude much higher isn't always possible.

Above 12,000 ft one pilot has to have a hit of oxygen every minute. I think its 13,000 and both have to use it all the time. I can't remember when you have to give it to passengers. I guess I should drag out my FAR/AIM manual (Federal Aviation Regulations) and take a look.
 
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