Nearly numbed by rhetoric involved with the campaign, I've tended to become complacent about real issues of concern to all of us. It's too early to stop worrying, the threats are still there - check this out:
http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=3251

 

Examples:

"The FBI and Coast Guard announced last Thursday that they have discovered nine members of the Merchant Marine who may have links to terrorist groups.

"In San Diego on Wednesday, March 3, Ilyas Ali, an American citizen, and Muhamed Abid Afridi, a Pakistani national, admitted to drug trafficking in order to raise money for weapons for the Taliban and Al-Qaeda. They were selling heroin and hashish to raise money for Stinger missiles."

"On the same day, five Muslims were convicted in Buffalo of trafficking in untaxed cigarettes in order to get money for jihad."

 

Despite all; this is what Islam is about: To destroy and ultimately kill-off all things that are not Islamic. Sure, Islam is based on the teachings of love and peace, but that matters little for it has become so infected with hate in the last few decades that it hardly resembles what it once was. These terrorist cells (here in the States) have not rested and will continue to prey on us, who are considered infidels, even if they sell us what we like (drugs, alcohol, tobacco, guns). Suicide by proxy. When it all comes out in the wash, that’s what Islam is all about.

I stay locked and loaded and are teaching my children to do the same.

 

That's a dangerous generalization Big Orn.

A few extremists do NOT represent a religion. Islam is no more about death and destruction than Christianity. The belief in being the one true "right" religion is every bit as powerful in Christianity as in Islam.

Kannata

 

I realize that. But, the truth is evident. And I agree that religion - no matter what belief - has its weaknesses. But, this religion is based on a mindset that sanctions war and rewards terrorism. I will not relate this to God or a god or group of gods. It is entirely based upon a society that, nowadays, is filled with hate for anyone (or country) that is not Islam. We can turn a blind eye to it, but it will not change.
I don’t like admitting it, but it’s true. There are many here at FTE that agree with me, but not because they like me or hate the Muslims. Hitler claimed to be a Christian, but he didn’t show it. These Islamic fundamentalists don’t either. I’m am not and will not verbally attack a social group based solely on their race, color or culture; it’s their belief that we (Americans) must die because of what they believe we are, that being Evil incarnate, that bothers me.
Pure Islam was a good, wholesome belief – once. But, I am not talking about that. I am talking about what it has become.

If anyone can prove to me that it has not changed for the worse I will change my mind.

 

Islamic believe and the manner which it is spreading is hardly different than the spread of christianity. Societies were wiped out in the name of christianity much the same as Islam seeks to do now. Are Christians any better?

 

Let me re-word it - It is not Islam anymore, nor has it anything to do with Allah or Mohammad. It has become something else altogether different, which has many names. I am sure you see the names everyday in the papers, tabloids, and TV news.

And - yes, Christianity was once used the same way by ignorant, heartless, merciless heathens, who had no concept of Christianity.

So, are you helping me make a point or are you also doubting what I say?

 

I'm still waiting to hear an organized statement from the mullahs and other islamic leaders condeming the actions of the 'few' that are corrupting the vision of islam. Their silence is indeed deafening.

It is truely sad. It seems thier goal is to wipe us out. This they can never accomplish because they do not have the technology or the strength to be able to. And we don't have the resolve to wage a 'holy war' on their terms. So I do not see an end to this situation.

 

To kill American, British, and all other infidels may be the goal of al quada(sp?), but it is not the goal or purpose of the religion of "Islam". Some radicals kill poeple and use a religion to justify it and then the religion is tainted. Many Islamics and other rigions believe the U.S. is against Islam, and Bush needs to make sure he gets the message out that we are not. We are out for the ones who use its name for their own purpose. I know he tried in the past, but he needs to do it again and again and again, until everyone knows.

 

This, too, has had my undivided attention. Interestingly enough, the leaders that do condemn the violent jihad are speaking loud and clear in Iraq, though you won't be reading about it in the local/national papers. I also remember the beginning of the war in Iraq when we took out some Taliban in the northern mountains.
The Kurds in that area were extremely grateful. They mentioned how they had been largely practising the Sufi Islam until these Taliban came over the hills and started doing to them what they had been doing to the locals in Afghanistan.

None of this is meritorious of mention even on Fox News. Just ain't gory enough to sell. Gotta really root around on the Net.

Commandpost is a good place to start...

 

Here they sell us newspapers, cigarettes, candy, gum, tobacco products, gasoline, coffee, and dunkin donuts too

You know im prolly going to get banned for this next comment, but noone has said this anywhere else as near as i can figure out in any of the forums where this kind of stuff is discussed. My thoughts are that if we know that SOME portion of muslims are involved in terrorist activities, and it appears that the majority of all mosques ( as reported by some politician last week in the NY area) are involved with rasing money and being sympathizers of al-quaida etc,then we as a country have to protect ourselves by whatever means necessary. If that means that we need to detain people and put them in some kind of custody then thats what they need to do. the good of the masses should circumvent the lack of human rights for a few. call it predjudice call it unfair cal it whatever but the average joe walking down the street should be safe from some zealot either under the guise of religion or any other platform who wants to kill for his cause. If its muslims who are the ones doing this then the country needs to detain these people, verify whether or not they are known to be involved with this kind of activity then get them out of here one way or another if they are.If not than its no more harmful than being being questioned by the police during a crime investigation when youre innocent.. like i said the greater good is whats at stake

 

I pray we never get to that stage.

Everything that has been set out by the founding fathers of both of our nations, everything that makes us great, would have been violated and discarded.

Kannata

 

Organized Religion Kills!

 

If it were only that simple. But it’s not. There is no way of knowing which part of a certain religion is bad or good. It was not religion in WW2, but politics that got so many innocent people thrown in jail (concentration camps, internment camps). There is not much difference in religion and politics anyway. Back then most of the dangerous and really suspicious characters were apprehended just after the bombing of Pearl Harbor. But as late as 1944, Germans were still being apprehended, possibly as fodder for prisoner exchanges. Additionally, Germans in Latin America were interned in the United States, possibly a wholesale internment that took place under the guise of hemispherical security. I think that politics were at play again for J.E. Hoover to build up the FBI and compete with the OSS (Office of Strategic Services) and maybe, later, the CIA for jurisdiction over the Western Hemisphere…but, that’s another story.
So many innocent people that migrated to the US to get away from ****-controlled Germany. But, they turned away from that lifestyle – that’s the kicker – turning away from what they left to come here to get what we have and that being freedom from oppression. (And we threw them in with the thugs anyway). How can we point out who is which? My belief may be way out in left field, but if anyone wants to leave their home, relatives, culture because of a “bad” religion, then why come here and try to promote it? Leave it back there, where it festers and hopefully dies, don’t continue it here and hope it gets better. It won’t.

Also – why go over there and try to make them into what we are? No wonder there’s so many angry people over there that hate us. Oppression is a two-edged sword, it cuts both ways. Know what I mean?

 

actually regarding the ***** according to some documentary that aired on the History Channel this evening many came here and practiced nazism and it even caught on here a bit for a spell before some of the people from the KKK andother racist orginizations turned it into more of a "white power" thing.
I do agree with you that this country has no business being the police department to the rest of the world trying to cram our ideals down the throats of others, but we do have a 200+ year history of doing just that i mean how many missionaries were sitting there trying to convert the indians??
I still think tho that if for the good of 200 million Americans( guesstimated) if we have to segregate( no idea of exact numbers but for argument sake )2 million potential terrorists so be it the greater good of the country depends on , and there is tons of law that allows such things which is why we have cameras on street corners etc. Im not trying to start a race war here, but last time i read the papers there were only two or three white skinned americans helping al-quiada....if the problem is terrorists who are of middle eastern descent ( immigrants) then we owe it to the safety of our country to sort em out and deport any who have connections to such activity; and for all the liberals who think this is unfair heck ship them out too with the terrorists.
Also in case this seems kind of hard line to any of you reading this, i lived in NYC at the time of 9/11 and i saw and lived through the whole thing there . I have friends who served there and know people who didnt make it out; some who were never found.This i am sure has jaded my thinking on such things but hey in this country we are all entitled to our opinions and this is mine