Rant about Propane
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From: Conway Arkansas
Rant about Propane
I seen the new Usepropane.com commercial and it just kinda got me thinking.
Everyone complains about using natural resources and they are going to come to an end of the supplies, but why is everyone convertiong to propane?
Sure... I use it and I like it... but won't this come to an end also if propane gets "hard to get" etc
Just curious.....
Everyone complains about using natural resources and they are going to come to an end of the supplies, but why is everyone convertiong to propane?
Sure... I use it and I like it... but won't this come to an end also if propane gets "hard to get" etc
Just curious.....
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Your right- if everyone converts to propane then the supply will get thin and the prices will rocket.
Natural gas is doing this right now (price spike), after most people converted from fuel oil during the past 30 years.
Electricity will never be the cheapest energy choice- they have to burn something to make it and there is a lost efficiency.
Natural gas is doing this right now (price spike), after most people converted from fuel oil during the past 30 years.
Electricity will never be the cheapest energy choice- they have to burn something to make it and there is a lost efficiency.
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> Electricity will never be the cheapest energy choice
It will with solar and water power resources, once gas prices climb enough to really hurt. Then again, if that happens coal might come back.
I thought almost all propane/natural gas came from our own wells, is that enough of a reason to convert?
It will with solar and water power resources, once gas prices climb enough to really hurt. Then again, if that happens coal might come back.
I thought almost all propane/natural gas came from our own wells, is that enough of a reason to convert?
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We have been told for years and years, natural gas would always be inexpensive and plentiful, that we'd never run out. Hah...
With the restrictions on using coal now, power plants, steel mills and many other big manufacturers have converted to natural gas for their fuel requirements. They are sucking this stuff out of the ground in vast quanities.
The natural gas Czars are now manipulating their production and storage figures to inflate the prices, just as the petroleum producers are.
Until they figure out how to lower the emissions on coal burning, (which we do have an almost unending supply), gas prices will continue to escalate, so you better get used to it.
With the restrictions on using coal now, power plants, steel mills and many other big manufacturers have converted to natural gas for their fuel requirements. They are sucking this stuff out of the ground in vast quanities.
The natural gas Czars are now manipulating their production and storage figures to inflate the prices, just as the petroleum producers are.
Until they figure out how to lower the emissions on coal burning, (which we do have an almost unending supply), gas prices will continue to escalate, so you better get used to it.
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Originally posted by Chugalug
Natural gas was cheaper than electricity a few years ago, but the price of natural gas is on the rise now.
Propane has been pretty high here for years.
Natural gas was cheaper than electricity a few years ago, but the price of natural gas is on the rise now.
Propane has been pretty high here for years.
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From: Eastern WA
In my neck of the woods, propane is not the fuel of choice due to forever fluxuating prices. Natural gas and electricity are the winners with gas still having a price advantage. Electricity is great out here, mucho is produced by using a renewable resource (runoff from snowmelt) and there is no pollution. However, all of the good sites for building dams seem to be gone and there is now pressure to raise prices. In response, they've been building gas fired plants. Depending on the temperatures in your area a heat pump could make a lot of sense too.
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From: S/C Texas
The market has no control over prices. Thats why 90-99% of my heat in the winter comes from my wood burning stove. The expense is gas for the saws and splitter. Oh, and the new pump this summer, I seem to need a new $175 pump for the wood splitter.
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We went from propane to electric heat a couple years ago and it is much cheaper. Of course here there is a heat rate in the winter and they lower the cost for the electricity you use for heat. It is hard to compare though because we put in a complete new system. I still think that fuel oil is really about the best heat source. Here it costs the same as propane and fuel oil produces more BTU. However, our family owns a bulk fuel delivery business and I hate having to help fill fuel oil tanks so we don't mind people converting to propane. As for electricity, I think it will be a popular power source as cleaner means of producing it develop such as Wind power and hydroelectric plants. I think the biggest problems will be from the extreme enviromentalists that don't want new dams built.
