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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rockstate45
On your note, people with 4wd feel as if they are invincible. It only helps you to get going, not to stop. In my blue Expy I used A4WD b/c it was safer. In my red Expy with nice Goodyear A/Ts, I would just use 2wd since I didn't spin a lick on the snow/ice.


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I should make a note about the tires...as I mentioned earlier that's a huge thing, in my BMW with my M3 rims on it and Z rated tires I can barely keep it straight at 40Km/s...with snow tires I drive around as good as anything else. To a BMW owner it's only commen sense...for some reason people think that driving a truck (which has hardly any weight in the back end...all front heavy...made FAR worse when using a 4WD vehicle in 2WD vs using a 2WD only vehicle which has a weight distribution advantage) they can just use any old bald summer tires (ok I joke here a bit but you see where I'm going with this).

If everyone who drove a 'sport truck' and wanted 'sport tires' in the summer put on 'winter tires' they also would have no problem. Now me personally, I don't want a slammed sport truck...but I don't want to look ridiculous with a lifted 2WD truck with big tires So i'm going to leave the BFG Long Trails on it until they wear out / I trade the truck in or / I find them unacceptable and end up getting BFG AT's (I'm guessing 1 or 2 are more likely).

But that's just my take on it ;D

and I did say previously that if money was no object...I'd have a lifted 4WD.

To whomever said that gas milage isn't much worse in a 4WD...think about the fact that 500LBS = .5 of a second in the 1/4 mile and about 1-2% fuel milage increase for every 100LBS...so were talking up to a hypothetical 5-7.5% just based off the weight, I never mentioned rotating parts (though driving in 4WD would make it worse...but if you need it at that point who cares).

Just some food for thought...too each his own

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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by chado
I should make a note about the tires...as I mentioned earlier that's a huge thing, in my BMW with my M3 rims on it and Z rated tires I can barely keep it straight at 40Km/s...with snow tires I drive around as good as anything else. To a BMW owner it's only commen sense...for some reason people think that driving a truck (which has hardly any weight in the back end...all front heavy...made FAR worse when using a 4WD vehicle in 2WD vs using a 2WD only vehicle which has a weight distribution advantage) they can just use any old bald summer tires (ok I joke here a bit but you see where I'm going with this).

If everyone who drove a 'sport truck' and wanted 'sport tires' in the summer put on 'winter tires' they also would have no problem. Now me personally, I don't want a slammed sport truck...but I don't want to look ridiculous with a lifted 2WD truck with big tires So i'm going to leave the BFG Long Trails on it until they wear out / I trade the truck in or / I find them unacceptable and end up getting BFG AT's (I'm guessing 1 or 2 are more likely).

But that's just my take on it ;D

and I did say previously that if money was no object...I'd have a lifted 4WD.

To whomever said that gas milage isn't much worse in a 4WD...think about the fact that 500LBS = .5 of a second in the 1/4 mile and about 1-2% fuel milage increase for every 100LBS...so were talking up to a hypothetical 5-7.5% just based off the weight, I never mentioned rotating parts (though driving in 4WD would make it worse...but if you need it at that point who cares).

Just some food for thought...too each his own

-Chado
Yeah, tires are the key to getting places. You're right... people with 2wd and a sports car as their (only) mode of transportation won't think twice about putting snow tires on there. People with trucks or suvs won't even do that like you said.

If you decide to get new tires the BFG AT T/A KOs are the only way to go

Great in the mud for an A/T tire and are pretty freakin' strong. My truck bounces around quite a bit but it's still not as bad as a 3/4 ton.

If you want some pics of before and after the tire swap, just PM me and I'll show you what my stock Bridgestones looked like. Before, it almost made mine look like a work truck. The tires made it look good. It completed the look.

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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 02:27 PM
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I had 31" BFG AT's on my 79 F-150...I don't think you can see them in my gallery pics, not sure if I have any around here to show you...

With the bed packed down with snow (which eventually turned to ice) and I have no idea what that weighed...and my BFG AT's on my 2WD 79 F150 I could cruise around like nobodys business hahaha. But I have to find something that wont mess up the inside of my bed to use for weight this winter.

Since I am the owner of an IT Consulting firm the majority of the things that go in the back of my truck are clean, so I can't really have it full of bags of salt / dirt and risk it leaking.

Guess I could throw a few servers and a rack back there but that would be a really expensive weight haha.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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Dude, that's a sweet truck. Even though it's 2wd, I still like it lol.

I assume you have a current gen F150, right? Those servers are definitely an expensive paperweight lol

I had bags of sand in the back of mine and they didn't leak much but I know what you mean. Maybe you could try throwing some bricks in the back or cinder blocks. I dunno if you have a bedliner but those things sliding around could be harmful.

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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 02:35 PM
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Mine's a 2008...it will be last gen in a few months when the 2009's come out but I rather have the 'all the bugs worked out' model when it comes to my vehicle, I've driven 1300KM's on it since I picked it up last saturday.

I have a LineX spray in liner + a Ford Bed mat (the rubber one).

I don't know that I'd damage the bed by putting anything in it...it's just work doesn't stop in the winter so if I'm loading up 20 computers + monitors + a rack I don't want things getting banged around or dirty (wouldn't look good pulling up to a dental office only to get out these dirty filthy boxes with their new computers in them :O )
 
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Old Apr 25, 2008 | 02:43 PM
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Mine's a 2008...it will be last gen in a few months when the 2009's come out but I rather have the 'all the bugs worked out' model when it comes to my vehicle, I've driven 1300KM's on it since I picked it up last saturday.

I have a LineX spray in liner + a Ford Bed mat (the rubber one).

I don't know that I'd damage the bed by putting anything in it...it's just work doesn't stop in the winter so if I'm loading up 20 computers + monitors + a rack I don't want things getting banged around or dirty (wouldn't look good pulling up to a dental office only to get out these dirty filthy boxes with their new computers in them :O )
Ahhh. I love the current Gen. The new ones are alright but I know they'll grow on me eventually just like the new SDs.

Yeah, looks like you got some pretty good protection and even some good slide protection.

True. Do you have a camper shell (nvm, just saw you had an Fx2). If so, that's a good bit of weight right there. If I were in your position, I probably wouldn't want to risk anything as heavy as a cinder block sliding into a computer. Maybe something a bit more slender... hmmm... I dunno.

Btw, I just took a look at your truck. That thing is sleeeek. I always like the Fx2s. Probably the only 2wd truck I'd buy other than an L.

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Originally Posted by twdogs02
keep in mind the system must be pressurized to disengage the front axles.

When pressure fails the diaphram gets sloppy.

he made the mistake, after carefully looking over the axle's gears, that the axle gears were good.

He recommended I bring the truck to his shop every three months so we can put it on the lift to see if the front axles turn when the 4 wheel drive switch is engaged to avoid the bearings seizing again.

This is coming from a guy who owns one and is going to put the truck in the classified section of the newspaper today.
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1. the hubs work off of vacuum. not pressure.
2. they do not get "sloppy". the hub simply engages the front axle shafts if they fail
3. stupid mechanic and stupid owner (if you really do own this truck). bearing don't seize by turning as designed
4. good. and you still haven't fixed your supposed "issue".

if you're going to post B.S., at least get your facts straight. a hub that fails will only affect that hub. it will not break the bearing either...nor will it make the other side break.

now, the vacuum motor breaking can do that. but, since you didn't mention that, then I'm guessing your story is full of crap and that you're just another troll with nothing better to do.

Ford IWE works off a vacuum. When the motor is running, a small vacuum pump draws the vacuum which then disengages the front hubs. When you turn off the motor, or switch to 4x4, the vacuum is released and the front hubs disengage. There is an issue with some 04-06 trucks where the vacuum lines get messed up or the vacuum motor fails. This will cause the hubs to engage while driving. And it's extremely noticeable. So unless you continued to drive with that god-awful clicking noise, the hubs won't be overly damaged.
 
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