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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by Yeti
Not that this has anything to do with this or for that matter I even know what I'm talking about but in certain applications, drag cars, and circle track cars, we take in to consideration the axle rotation to give us the proper pinion angle under load.

You changed your sig,sister.
Anyhow. when designing a four link suspension you figure for anti-squat. This is the rise of the rear end under load and the resultant change in pinion angle. It can be measured in percent so maybe that would include power loss.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by cwb
You changed your sig,sister.
Anyhow. when designing a four link suspension you figure for anti-squat. This is the rise of the rear end under load and the resultant change in pinion angle. It can be measured in percent so maybe that would include power loss.

Sig change is only temp, until I can come up with one to offend the masses, but your description is Very good. On our circle track cars, we use what we call a "bird cage mount " (the gold thing) the inner race slides over the axle tube and is locked down, but the axle is still allowed to "float" in the cage housing, a lot of drivers don't like the setup, because it gives you a "loose" feeling even when your not...

 
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 01:16 PM
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The spring is not absorbing the power, it is storing it to be returned later as it unwinds when the torque/horsepower diminish. So you do not really lose it, you just delay it doing work.

You are probably loosing 4 times as much turning all the extra gears in the tranny.

I overcame this problem by running two turbocharged 7.3 IDI propane injected motor in mine.

Please send money for fuel and tires.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2004 | 05:26 PM
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Hey lover, where's the safety bushing for that upper shock mounting mounted in single shear?
 
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 04:30 AM
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No need for double, sometimes less is best........
 
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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Yes, but no safety bushing?
 
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 08:51 PM
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What is a safety bushing?
 
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 09:17 PM
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That was just mock up, we just got the chassis back from the powder coater and just doing a dry fit to make sure we had all the brackets on..

We haven't had anything fall off one of our cars in a lot of years
Knocked off is whole different story
 
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 09:34 PM
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Yeti.. on that picture.. just a few things I don't understand. The gold thingy (technical name) allows the axle to "float" inside of it.. correct? Now does this mean that it can rotate inside of it, and if so what keeps it located to keep the axle from just twisting and snaping the driveshaft right off? . I guess i don't aunderstand the setup much and am just curiou.. always wanting to learn... also, what is a safety bushing on the coilover deal that cwb was talking about?
 
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 09:57 PM
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I just had picture here somewhere.I'll find it.
 
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Thanks cwb.. is that incase the rod end breaks apart? so it will not fly off the bolt?
 
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Old Feb 16, 2004 | 10:38 PM
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Yessum.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2004 | 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by 02superstroker
Yeti.. on that picture.. just a few things I don't understand. The gold thingy (technical name) allows the axle to "float" inside of it.. correct? Now does this mean that it can rotate inside of it, and if so what keeps it located to keep the axle from just twisting and snaping the driveshaft right off? .
If you look at the Diff (magnesuim by the way) you will see we run a tourqe arm, which runs to the mid point of the chassis.
That keeps the axle from rolling over, also we run a adjustable panhard bar, that is able to slide up and down on the pipe that is bending down behind the shock.
 
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