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Respect and manners cost nothing extra and both will generally get one farther down the road of life in a much better fashion than without them.
For those who consider either or both a hindrance, I was raised to ignore the source and go on with life. Attempting to change people who ignore common social grace is normally fruitless as their values and attitudes were developed over a varying period of years and often reflect their parentage and peer groups, normally sacred ground in a conversation.
There's no room on a decent forum such as FTE for trolls. There are a multitude of other Internet sites where they can go to vent their hostility, use profanity and make personal attacks on other posters.
I was raised to have respect for your elders. Now granted, you would find their conduct not worthy of any form of respect after you got to know them, but initially they got it first and then lost it if they didn't earn it. I always looked foreward to the day when I would garner the same respect, but alas times have changed and now the young people that respect anything at all, including themselves, are fewer in number. One thing I was pleased to find when we moved to Texas 3 years ago is that kids here still respect adults. They still say yes sir and yes ma'am to adults.
I was also taight that ALL women deserve a cetain amount of respect, like holding a door open or helping out with physical tasks. This may be relabeled as common courtesy, but we always called it respect.
Just for fun, I went and looked up the definition of 'respect' and I got no less than 5 different meanings. One kind of respect involves being polite and showing courtesy, the other kind is basically an admiration that is earned.
I'm pretty sure this was directed at me in the firema's post. No need to be so vague.I've always been told respect is earned. It might be instantaneous but not automatic. I refuse to respect someone that would treat me like dirt. I also will not respect someone automatically for what they do for a living. To each his or her own.
I'm referring to Oldbones. the part about a thread in this forum having to do with respect being earned. I'm pretty sure That was what I said in another thread.
I try to be respectful towards other users as much as possible.I have on one occasion blasted back when under personal attack,but afterwards realized it wasn't the proper thing to do.We have a lot of different personalities on this site,but as time goes by,I can kind of figure out where everyone is coming from.I believe everyone deserves a certain amount of respect.It takes awhile to get to know folks on this site.I enjoy the different points of view on topics.I just had to learn to agree to disagree.This is the first public forum I have been on,and I certainally made my share of mistakes.Thankfully everyone has been more than understanding.
Courtesy is all well and good and I attempt as much but as soon as I detect an objectionable tone in someones statement I feel compelled to respond with something less than cordiality.
I had a wise old teacher let me in on a valuable secret years ago: when people have a beef with each other or feel they've been wronged, we say they want to get even, but they really don't. They want to get AHEAD. That's why minor differences of opinion become disagreements, then arguments, then fights, then battles, then wars, then mutual destruction.
On edit - The great thing is, we get to choose where the cycle stops.
It has been my experience that to treat a bully with forbearance only encourages greater acts of aggression. I cannot remember a single actual incident of "mutual destruction". Sometimes doing the "Christian" thing gets you, or worse, your loved ones, killed.
I'm not sure what the "Christian" thing to do is, I assume you're saying turn the other cheek. That wasn't what I was talking about. I was saying that someone has to be the adult, and either agree to disagree or have nothing to do with the offender. We all get to choose whether to argue or not.
BTW, the divorce courts, jails, etc. are full of cases of "mutual destruction".
Originally posted by vman I'm pretty sure this was directed at me in the firema's post. No need to be so vague.I've always been told respect is earned. It might be instantaneous but not automatic. I refuse to respect someone that would treat me like dirt. I also will not respect someone automatically for what they do for a living. To each his or her own.
vman , my thread starter was not directed at you. I have no axe to grind with you.
I respect your views on respect as equally as everyone else's.