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Yes Honda's are pricey but your paying for a machine a class above. Just look at the welds. There much cleaner than their competition. Honda's will just about run forever.
As a guy that works freight, we ship out 5 Honda's for every other brand shipped out to the bush and for every 3 machines of other brands that come back for work at the dealership 1 Honda comes back. And the village people beat the tar out of these things.
Yamaha is a good machine also. But everything else just isn't up to Honda's level of quality and reliabilty.
we have a 98 honda 300 fourtrax 2wd and let me tell ya it has gone through all sorts of mud and water and still gets out. it has the power to do long wheelies on even though it is a heavy bike. very reliable. i have ridden on a couple of race quads too, like the new suzuki Z400 and that is the best one i have ever ridden. very fast and reliable, a 98 honda 300 ex that is a great beginner racer, i have ridden an a polaris scrambler 500 4x4 and it is really fast and still has 4x4
I have an older Honda and Suzuki, and just bought a 300 & 500 Arctic Cat. Each has their different advantages and I think any will do a good job for you. I prefer the Suzuki over the Honda for the selection of gearing. It will crawl places the Honda won't go. For me anyway, I'm not into "getting a run at it". I've riddin a Yamaha and wasn't real impressed with it. The 500 Polaris is a gutsy machine but I didn't like the belt drive tranny. The Arctic Cats are the smoothest riding machine I've been on. They haven't been on the market long so not too many guys are familiar with them as the Honda but I hear the dune riders swear by them. They are made in USA and have powder coated frames instead of just paint. The motors are suzuki. They are deffinately worth looking at before you buy. I did and came home with one for me and one for the wife. They need toys too ya' know....
Originally posted by chipper Any reason your not looking at the Bombardier Outlander 400. If you do some research the others don't compare, in my opinion.
Correct, the Bombardier Outlander is an awesome quad. it has more power, better handing, and is an all around better performer than the other 400's. The suzuki is the second best.
honda's quads are very reliable, but arent the best. to me, every honda i have ridden(i have ridden alot of 4 wheelers) seems to be less powerfull than any other brand of the same cc. All of honda's utility quads have horrible ground clearance, and have a very stiff steering system, 4x4 or not. Suzuki makes an very good 4-stroke and the Bombardier Rotax engines are really good too. As for the Yamaha, reliability becomes a problem.
Originally posted by trucksforever
honda's quads are very reliable, but arent the best. to me, every honda i have ridden(i have ridden alot of 4 wheelers) seems to be less powerfull than any other brand of the same cc. All of honda's utility quads have horrible ground clearance, and have a very stiff steering system, 4x4 or not.
They are de-tuned more than any other brand coming out of the factory. Thats why they seem less powerful....but that is why they have the reliability the others dont have.
Horrible ground clearance? I have a good 8" under the rear axle of my Foreman....Mabey not the most, but Honda's are definately not at the bottom of the list in that category.
As for the steering....My Foreman's is lighter than the Z400's, and Raptor's in 2x4 as far as I can tell. Switch into 4x4 and it becomes stiffer...but not by much.
I have a 87 polaris trailboss 250. I have to say that when it runs it runs great, Ive kept up with a comparable model suzuki 350 with a 5 speed, untill the belt drive ran out of gear. Talk about low end tourqe. You would think its a four stroke, just a little gas and it will get up and over anything. I've pulled a 20 foot flat bed trailer that has to way in at around 800 pounds or so maybe more. I had to stand over the front to keep it down but it pulled it. The belt drive sucks when ya get it wet, and I can't seem keep it running, I dont know if its just that everything is going at once or what but everytime I ride it something else breaks, and I dont even ride that hard(I'm talking just around the yard), so its sat for atleast 6 months now.
I too have been doing some research on a 400cc class Quad. I have settled down to the Outlander 400, Suzuki Eiger and Arctic Cat 400. I have read nothing but great reviews on the Outlander. The Outlander right now has a 3 yr warranty offer which is hard to beat. The Arctic Cat has a 2 yr warranty and a $69 Warn Winch offer until April. I dismissed the Yamaha Kodiak and Bruin because most people said a low range transmission is a must and The Yamaha's don't have one. The Hondas are out because I want a auto transmission.
ok, yamaha is out thanks to V10man info on trannys, im down to the Arctic Cat and the Suzuki. is the 400 good enough? will it hold its own for the most part? im not really looking to spend more then 5k. would i be safe buying a used '00-'02, or should i just spend the extra and get a brand new quad? most likely buy it at the end of summer, when is the price of quads usually the lowest?
V10Man, The Kodiak has a hi-lo trans,and is one of the toughest around!We continually abuse one in deep mud and slop and has never had failure, belt slippage.Very ggod quad,if i did not have my heart set on a kawasaki 700 prairie, i would get a 450 Kodiak.
It all depends what you want it for. The quality of Honda's is unquestioned. I never liked the way Yamaha's feel and they steer hard. Yamaha's and Polaris both have too high of a center of gravity for me. Also many of the bigger quads are just to darn heavy. I have went places with the old king quad that left the big 600s behind. They side hill better than almost anything too. You may end up trading what you first buy for what you end up learning that you really want. My first new 4x4 was a 400 Kodiak. The first time I took it out my friend with a king quad had to come back and help me horse it over logs that he just rode over. He ran and hid from me everytime we went out unless it was on a gravel road, and I can out ride him any day. I traded it for a Suzuki and never regretted it. That was a few years ago. Today if I was buying a new quad it would definately be a Raptor
As far as when there worth less. I would say that any 4 wheel drive quad capable of pushing snow would hold its value in the winter better then most and a 2 wheel drive quad unable to push snow will loose the most in the winter(may not be much but; depending on were you live of course) and a 2 wheel drive sport quad would probally be worth a little more in the summer depending on were you live, but a 4 wheel drive utility quad will probally stay about the same.
Did u look at polaris i have a 2000 sportsmen 500 my neighbor just got a honda rincon we went on a four day trip and i rode his and the sus*****ion is alot nicer on the polaris i think polaris is the way to go but it is really what u need the machine to do