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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 02:02 PM
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I recently purchased a 1978 Ford F-150 4X4. In this truck, I found a 351 Cleveland, C6 transmission and a NP transfer case (aluminum from a mid 80's Bronco). The engine was completely rebuilt by the previous owner before he was tragicly killed in a motorcycle crash. My problem came when I tried to start it. I replaced the starter and slenoid before any attempt was made. The engine will not turn over, even by hand.

This truck sat idle for around 5 years after the rebuild without being started. I found rust on the spark plugs. The oil on the dipstick looked ok. My question is, what are the most obvious things that I should check and how do I go about fixing this?

This is my first truck build and I don't want to screw things up. Also, will a 400 swap out with the same tranny?
 

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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 02:31 PM
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351C in a 78???

Are you sure it is not a 351M?
 
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 02:38 PM
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Unfortunately, it is a 351 C. I did all the research. I was forced to replace the c6 to one with the small block bolt pattern, because it didn't line up. This truck was a bit of a basket case.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 02:52 PM
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The 400 uses the big bell housing pattern. You could swap in a 351W.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 02:53 PM
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No, a 400 will not bolt up to a 351c bellhousing. You will need to find a bellhousing/tranny from a 351m/400/429/460.
How much rust is inside the engine?? Good posibility the rings rusted fast to the cyl wall. Take a good flashlight and see if you can see any rust on the cyl walls. You can try putting some oil in the cyls and attempt turning it over in a few days. Worst case you'll need to pull the engine apart to free it up.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 03:15 PM
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Put a mixture of kerosene and auto tranny fluid in the cylinders. This works wonders for stuck rings.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2004 | 05:40 PM
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Originally posted by burghfan1972
Unfortunately, it is a 351 C. I did all the research.
Unfortunately? I'd take a C over an M any day.

I second 79_250RangerLariat and LxMan's suggestion about stuck rings. If your spark plugs had rust on them, chances are the cylinder walls are rusty.
 
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Old Jan 26, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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Thanks for the help guys. I was just under the impression that the 351 C was a poor engine for trucks. I am new to this so thanx for the help.
 
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If the clevland was rebuilt, I would just tear it down, do a quick cylinder hone with new rings and bearings. Summit has rering kits for ~$160. Then you will have an awesome good-as-new motor. I would also take a clevland over a modified any day! You probably can keep the cam and lifters in the block.
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