We had a long thread about this last fall, probably @ October. Search for a/c, temperature, crew cab and you should find it. There was lots of good info in it from a few that really seem to know A/C. It helped me to get my dealer to recharge the system by showing him that the temp at the vents was several degrees above what it should be. That helped a bit, but it still does not cool like my 89. Part of the problem seems to be the size of the crew cab. I had mine recharged, my truck is white, windows are tinted, and still not real good.

 

It seems like every summer we get posts like this. There have been posts in the past with some solutions ranging from low charge to cloged in-line filters. My A/C has always sucked IMO. Since new, it has never blown colder than 48 at the vents. Even in the mornings when it's in the 70's out only gets to 50 degrees. On hot days in city traffic it ranges from 60-50. Not good. My old 92 Dodge Spirit with R12 puts out 36 degree air! If your brand new 2002 isn't cooling well I'd have Ford take a look at it.

 

The A/C on my Y2K SDCC has always been inadaquate. I have had the A/C checked by the service department three times and each time have been told that "the gauges are reading correct". That don't help me much. It seems that the condenser on these trucks is too small for the cab volume. (probably the same one used on the regular cab trucks) I have to run the A/C on MAX, high fan all the time.

I have seen threads refering to VOV devices (variable orifice valves) that claim to eliminate this problem. I think that the A/C on something that costs this much should do a better job.

 

:-X23 I have the same complaint, that the temp is not as cold as my 93 Mercury Villager which uses the old "bad" R-12 freon.
My Ford service dept. says that the air temp from the center vent should be between 45-50 degrees and that is the exact range of temp that I experience. I believe that the 134-A refrigerant, in the newer equipment, just doesn't have the same cooling capacity.
I wonder if we could retrofit back to R-12. I still have about 10 pounds on hand.:P

 

I'll have to agree with the warm answers. My 02 just doesn't cool down quickly on warm days. I must say I'm a little suprised that the compressor isn't an overachiever like the rest of the truck.

 

I still do not believe that the compressor is at fault by design. If it is mechanically faulty, then of course. But we all share the same compressor.

 

I've had vehicles with colder AC, but my CC cools off fine. Will probably get the front windows tinted before long. It's amazing how much heat the tint keeps out of the cab.

 

I looked up the Air Conditions systems on the Ford Service CD-ROM (I'm not a Ford Mechanic, I just bought the disk), and it appears that all the components are the SAME in the Truck series, and the Excursion series:
#19860 - Evaporator
#19C836 - Accumulator
#19712 - Condenser
#19703 Compressor

If that is the case, the cabin volume of the CrewCab should not be a factor, as the 'X' has a much larger volume.
Interesting Thread... I'm in Northern California, (74 is 'hot' where I live), but I travel to some hot areas, and sure like to be "cool"...

Mark Peterson
'02 F-250 CrewCab SB V-10

 

>I looked up the Air Conditions systems on the Ford Service
>CD-ROM (I'm not a Ford Mechanic, I just bought the disk),
>and it appears that all the components are the SAME in the
>Truck series, and the Excursion series:
>#19860 - Evaporator
>#19C836 - Accumulator
>#19712 - Condenser
>#19703 Compressor
>
>If that is the case, the cabin volume of the CrewCab should
>not be a factor, as the 'X' has a much larger volume.
>Interesting Thread... I'm in Northern California, (74 is
>'hot' where I live), but I travel to some hot areas, and
>sure like to be "cool"...
>
>Mark Peterson
>'02 F-250 CrewCab SB V-10

Excellent information!
Thanks

 

>I've had vehicles with colder AC, but my CC cools off fine.
>Will probably get the front windows tinted before long.
>It's amazing how much heat the tint keeps out of the cab.


NoMo is right there. I have to agree with that. I've driving vehicles without tinted windows and they do seem much hotter inside. All our mini-buses have tinted windows on them for that reason. We ordered them that way. Then a white paint job helps alot too to reflect the heat.

 

I have the factory tint on the back window along with the rear passenger seats. The front passenger seats have no tint.
Are you saying that I need an additional tint to the factory tint, in order to cool my Crew Cab down?
I used to have a extra cab Chevy. It got cold with just the factory tint. Then again, it was NOT a Crew Cab.
Do Excursion owners have a secondary set of vents for the rear?
Some big vehicles do.
I'm wondering if that may be the problem.
Thanks for all the input, fellas!
Mike

 

i believe the X's have the rear air vents and controls... monsta can verify this for us.... ok ok.. he is good for something (actually a lot of things, but i am not suppose to say that until i meet his sister that he seemed to offer up to me once, but then seemed to forget about it???).

anyhow.... i am not happy with the a/c in my truck either, although it is better than most of the other trucks i have owned.... i don't think it has anything to do with cab size... as teh X is larger and it was pointed out that the parts are the same across the superduty/X line). i think after a good long while (20 minutes???) it is usually sufficent and once and a while actually gets COLD.... i think my problem and maybe the one that some of you are confusing this with (or maybe not?? lol) is the time it takes to actually start cooling the vehicle.... that would definatly be teh reason i don't like mine! i remember my mother had a crazy thing for only driving in a car with teh air on full (even in the dead of winter... yes guys, there are reasons that i am soooooo cool! ). but i do remember her cars (the last few were nissan maximas) ALWAYS got damn near ready to freeze ice within a minute or two.

now for tinted windows.... not that i know any differntly since all my vehicles have had tint as the FIRST mod (although this truck was different???)... it does help in the sun.. i have talked to plenty of ppl that confirm this after they have had non-tinted, then get the tint... plus it looks cool, chicks dig tinted windows and when your getting down with an ugly one, no one needs to be the wiser (although **I** have NEVER been in that situation... or at least not ever that i'd talk about it. ). and an extra added bonus benefit is you get tickets sometimes (ok... that was sarcastic, but then again... my truck gets tickets left and right for this and that.)

the more tint u get on there, the better off you will be.... in ca, the law states none on the windshild or front side windows... although i have had mine always tinted on the sides, i have had relatively few problems with the cops over it.

i would assume taht is the front was legal, u could really keep the inside of your rig cool... but i don't know if that is actually leagl anywhere and if it isn't and you did... i'd bet you wouldn't make it home from the tint shop before being harrased over it.

 

>>Do Excursion owners have a secondary set of vents for the
>rear?

I do. But they work off the rear AC.

Mine will get cold in a few minutes when on MAX AC and sometimes force me to turn it off cause it gets so cold. I rarely use the rear AC simply cause the front kicks out the cold.

Tinting may help reduce the heat build-up but as abendx spoke of, it'll do nothing to make you AC cool down things faster. (well, except for the obvious less heat to deal with in the first place.)

There is a specific step by step process for testing the HVAC system. If your dealer said yours was okay, I would suggest taking it to another. I see too many variations in the performance of our AC systems. Somebody ain't do something right somewhere...

 

There must be something wrong, I have a 1999 and live in Fl and mine will freeze you out in about 5 min.

 

Hey there Vaccuum, I don't know if this will help, but here's my story.
I took delivery on a 2001 excursion LTD in January of 2001. When the weather in mass. warmed up so did my truck, the AC made fan noise but didn't do much to cool the truck. After a number of trips to the dealer to have this looked at and always having them tell me, "it's working properly, It's NORMAL", I decided to take a look at it myself. I am an HVAC tech. I found that the dealers charging system was way out of calibration, they had the system overcharged by 1/2 pound of freon. I pulled the system down and re-charged it with the correct amount of R-134 and ended up with 1/2 pound extra. The system operates as it should now and cools the large interior of the excursion on the hottest days quickly. Don't let them push this off, you paid a lot of money for your truck, The AC system was designed to cool the truck, and it will, when properly serviced, If your dealer can't or won't repair it, get another dealer to look at it. When I asked the service manager when the charging system was last calibrated, He said, "what do you mean calibrated", enough said.