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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 06:42 PM
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will not crank at all....

For the past few weeks my truck has been having some hard starts (cranking for about 30 seconds before it would start.) It has slowly gotten worse. I replaced the battery, 1000ca and 850 cca. I also replaced the fuel filter, still really didn't help my starting. I can hear the fuel pump fire up every time. Well just this afternoon I tried to start the darn thing and....nothing. Plenty of battery juice, will just not crank at all now. Not even a click from the solenoid. It is a 2000 F-150 5.4L. Any help would be great.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 11:32 PM
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Try another Key. The chip in it could be bad and the anti-theft will not let it crank.
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 09:32 AM
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Tried another key and still nothing...
 
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 09:58 PM
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sound like a positive batt cable check your ford dealer for a base number 14300 fairly common
 
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Old Jan 17, 2004 | 10:05 PM
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i would take a guess and say its starter drag especially since it happened so slowly, oil water or snow may have got inside your starter and froze it up.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 04:05 PM
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Well I replaced the starter and still had the same problem. Got my old one back and bought a tester to see were I was losing juice. Starter was fine, starter solenoid was fine, battery was fine. I tested the starter relay on the fire wall, while in the start position and I didn't have any juice. So I guess that narrowed it down to either the neutral safety switch or ignition switch I guess. I don't think its the neut safe because it isn't acting funny (like starting in drive.) I have no idea were the ignition switch is.... All my fuses look fine, and I would like to replace the ignition switch before the neut safe. If anyone has a better idea I would love the help. Or if anyone could tell me where the ignition switch is that would be great!

p.s. my truck starts fine when I jump it through the starter relay, no hesitation or anything.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2004 | 05:17 PM
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if when you bypass the starter relay it starts then that would mean you have a bad starter relay,right?
 
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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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uuurrg! The truck has a new starter, starter solenoid (relay), battery, ignition switch, and all fuses are good and the darn thing still will not crank. I can bump start it through the relay, but the starter will not disengage. After a couple bump starts the truck will not turn over any more.
i hope my relay is still good. Any help will be great!
 
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Old Jan 19, 2004 | 09:59 PM
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Are all of the wires on the correct sides on the solenoid?
If you use a test light, have someone try to crank the truck over and see if there is any voltage going to the small/red wire going to the small post on the solenoid. If so, then the solenoid could be bad.. If not, then you have other issues.
Also, recheck all cable connections. Battery, solenoid cables, ground cable to frame and solenoid to starter.
Also make sure that the small ground on the neg battery post is hookes up to the chassis. (fender bolt).
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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 10:38 PM
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Grrr.. I bought a new starter, i checked all my grounds and cables, put a new solenoid in it, and it still will not crank. I am getting a click in the solenoid though, but it will not bump start through the solenoid. I got under the truck and jumped it through the starter and it fired up. I let it run for about 20 minutes. I tried to restart it and "click." Still won't start through solenoid. And now when I try to jump start it through the starter I hear the drive spinning freely, and it will not engage the flywheel. Does that mean that my brand new starter is bad now?... Any help would be great.
 
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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 11:39 AM
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Sounds like the bendix isn't coming out so it could be the starter.
Doesn't the starter have a small wire to a solenoid and the big one to the motor on these?
I really haven't looked at mine to tell. I was thinking that The solenoid up top was used to engage the solenoid on the starter, but I could be mistaken.
If it does, have someone turn the key and check for voltage at the small wire on the starter. It sounds like it isn't getting power to it.

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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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Well i fried another starter again. I took my truck to the dealer, and they can't figure out what is wrong with it. The computer read back that everything was ok, but for some reason I keep burning up starters. Voltage is perfectly by the book at all contacts. What would be the cause for a starter to not disengage after the truck has started. That is the problem I am running into........
please help quick, there isn't very many starters left in N.C. =)

Thanks
 
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