Hey horsecop,

If you got the cash to spare, go for it. I think it's worth it.
I've spent more before and got a lot less.

 

Bubba- if you called TYMAR and got a lady, that would be Dale's wife. Neat lady.

jschira-

I don't want to start a fight either, but would like to know why you feel this way. I'm part Norwegian, so I'm stubborn, but I can learn.

 

OK. I extensively researched this topic last year. At best, the reviews were mixed. Maybe 50% said that the HX hose helped, maybe 50% said that it did not do a thing. Almost no one claims more power or better fuel economy, just smoother idle, smoother power delivery.

I will be generous, on the benefit side of the equation, let's just say 2/3 get smoother idle/power.

A substantial number of people have reported leaks, drips and explosive failures. I don't have any specific numbers, but vitually everyone recommends carrying repair tools with you at all times. Most of the kits have caps that you can put on the fittings if you have to take off the hose (I wonder why?). Everyone recommends keeping the caps with you at all times. So this is a serious potential issue.

So on the cost side of the equation, let's just say 1/3 will experience some sort of drip/leak/catastrophic failure.

So, I have a 1 in 3 shot of some sort of failure out on the highway with my trailer and car in tow for a 2 in 3 shot of a smoother idle.

Sorry. The math just doesn't work for me.

Now, this is for me being with the truck and having all the tools/parts with me to make the fix.

What if my wife is out in the boonies and this happens. What is she supposed to do?

 

To an extent, I can agree with your reasoning. The people that try to make their own TYMAR, and then complain that it has problems fitting in the available space, etc., are probably the same ones trying to save a dollar by trying to make an HX hose themselves, rather than get one that is rated for the pressures that it will be subjected to. I went wiith one that I got from someone that knows how to put one together safely, without the inherent risks of a do-it-yourself job. Did I mention that mine is from TYMAR?
For the record, I've never heard anyone claim that it's supposed to give you more power. It's intended for smoother operation, which mine gave me.
I just wanted to hear your reasoning.
Thanks.
Scott.

 

The reports that I read were not homemade kits. They were the pro-made hoses, including Tymar.

Here is a good discussion thread:

http://forums.ford-trucks.com/ubbthr...fpart=all&vc=1

Here is another:

http://forums.ford-trucks.com/ubbthr...fpart=all&vc=1

And here:

http://forums.ford-trucks.com/ubbthr...ue#Post1567294

You will see my point. Not everyone gets a benefit. Some have problems.

Cost/Benefit ====> Not making it for me.

Your results may vary.

 

hey strokers. Just finished installing my tymar cross-over hose and it was a breeze installing. It did an I repeat It did smooth out the roughness in my engine. Very satisfied with the results. Very inexpensive mod that does work. As for as carrying tools just in case it starts leaking, how hard is it to put a 11/16 wrench in your glove box. If you put the darn thing on right the first time its not gonna give you problems. I know several people down here where I live that tried to save a little money an make there own an guess what, Bam, they had leaks, not bursting on them but leaks. They ended up taking it off all together or ordered a kit from tymar, ITP, Diesel Manor, etc. Come on jschira your from Texas, dont puss out on us just because a few post on diesel stop said they had a few leaks. The ones that bursted on them few post was because they were not careful in the install to make sure it was not rubbing against something. Them hoses are no different from the factory installed ones except the factory ones have a plastic wire loom around them, wow, lot of protection there. Any way its a good mod for the buck. Dont let a few probs of others stop a person from doing it. Later fellows, Hey Quad. Dale had good things to say about you. Good people there at Tymar. Go Carolina. Maybe the Cowboys next year. Later.

 

I think this was a pretty good thread myself. Thanks guys for the points and counters. Quad, Jschira and Heat, y'all coming over next Sunday for steak and carbinated? Cuttr you can come too, but this is Titan territory.

 

Not hard at all.

Now getting the wife to use them, that's the trick.

See, I knew if I answered I'd start a fight.

OK. To try and head this off:

If you like the mod and you think that it made a benefit on your truck and you think that it's worth the risk, please be my guest. Put on 100 HX hoses. It's your truck.

Now I did not think that the risk on my truck was worth the potential benefit, so I decided not to put an HX hose on my truck.

OK?

 

Bubba-
I'm pretty safe to invite from an NFL fan standpoint. I'm from Seattle, and the Seahawks haven't been in the playoffs since the first year Holmgren got here and got to play with Dennis Erickson's team. Now that Holmgren has control of the roster, I might as well go back to being a Raider fan. 3-13 or not, they'll still be in the playoffs before the Seahawks.
I don't feel any hostility toward anyone regarding the direction this thread has taken. We're all here to make decisions as to what mod makes sense to us for our individual trucks. The way mine is set up is perfect for me, but might not be for someone else. I wasn't trying to start a fight, or offend anyone. If I did, it wasn't my intent.

 

Hey jschira I was'nt trying to get your dander up. I'm just saying that I feel if these cross over mods is done with utmost diligence with the fittings secure not over tightened, the hose placed where it cannot rub against anything, there SHOULD and I emphasize SHOULD be no way for these hoses to fail because a factory installed hose can fail just as easy as these can. Nuttin wrong with some friendly agreeing and disagreeing. By the way I dont think I can get 100 hx hoses on my truck, maybe 99 but I think that 100th is tighter than dicks hat band. Horsecop, thanx for the invite but tenn. is just a little to far. I used to be a titan fan to but that was when they were in Houston an went by the Oilers. No hard feelings here js, heck I'm a Texan just like u. Anyway this is one great site, like reading the post on here, dont post on here to much but do like reading what people have to say. Later.

 

Thanks for the invite Horse,
Beware, I'm a Packer fan (and still drinkin over the playoff loss, ...like I need a reason) I'll either bring the cheese or cut it......... lololol

 

Hey jschira,

Give the wagon to your wife and buy a PSD pick up. Then enjoy the mods.

 

No problem. I studied this issue for months. For me, reliability is key. I use my truck 95% of the time to haul my cars 500-1000 to shows. It is not a daily driver. If it fails, it will fail 100s miles from home, on a Sunday with one of my cars and trailer in tow. Not a good situation. I've done a lot of mods, many of them with very little (if any) benefit. Geez. I have a TAG and a 203* T-stat. I even use Stanadyne. So I'm not afraid of "iffy" mods and snake oil. But all of my mods have a very high reliability index.

This particular mod just doesn't pass my cost/benefit analysis. For some reason, this pi$$$es people off. If you read any of the links that I posted, you will see this to be true.

So, like I said, if you've done this mod and it works for you, that's great. If you want to do it, that's great too. Come over to the house, I'll help you put it on.

But, if someone asks me if I recommend it, like the original poster did, I answer no.

 

Did the cross over mod tonight. Pretty easy. No drips, no runs and did find a bunch of crap in the engine valley including an ear ring! Only difficult step was getting the 8 mm clamp bolt off. Real tight area. I did notice that that tick sound was gone. Instructions were real easy to follow. Guages are next.

 

I'm glad it went well for you, Bubba, and that you're liking the results. I don't know if it's come up in conversation before, but here is a link to a how-to on the gauges, in case you need it.