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Originally posted by otto
Since when does GM decide what is used for law enforcement purposes
Since when does GM decide what is used for law enforcement purposes
The on-star commercials really ought to make you think. If they can unlock your car and run diagnostics remotely, they sure as heck can track you and the state (rate of acceleration, braking, etc.,) of your vehicle remotely quite easily and I'm guessing the capability is there even if you don't pay for the service.
There were some government types who were pushing for the tracking devices so that they could tax you based on how many miles you drive, but something tells me they wouldn't be willing to give up the gas tax.
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There was a big article about this in either Car and Driver or Motor Trend, can't remember. But they said that the majority of GM passenger vehicles have this "black box," and they claimed it recorded numbers pre-crash. Meaning, everytime you slam on the brakes (or with any sort of sudden change), the computer records your speed, brake pressure, and various other things. I'm going to try to find the article...
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Originally posted by alanscott
I ditched the phone and went back to an older model
I ditched the phone and went back to an older model
It was much more convienient to use and talk on than either of the samsungs my wife has had, her latest one a $300 dollar samsung with download crap, gps and pretty display is a complete waste and I would take the old nokia over it anyday, course i stopped carrying a celly
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all obd2 vehicles record from 45 to 90 seconds prior to present time for " diagnostic purposes". have used it several times to repair vehicles. factory can supposedly download all data from day 1 vehicle roles off of assembly line
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I thought OBD-2 did that, and OBD-2 was a govenrment mandate for all cars sold in US 1996 and up
Also ODB-2 cars dont need the sniffer or rollers/dnyamometer for emissions testing, they are self diagnosing, all they test here is the gas cap, the cars on board computer just does a quick chat with the governments computer, i know they record miles from the computer, cause they dont ask ya the miles anymore.........we go every other year here
Also ODB-2 cars dont need the sniffer or rollers/dnyamometer for emissions testing, they are self diagnosing, all they test here is the gas cap, the cars on board computer just does a quick chat with the governments computer, i know they record miles from the computer, cause they dont ask ya the miles anymore.........we go every other year here
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From: Lower Rainland British Columbia, Canada
If all of what I'm hearing is true... I think we need some expert FTE help to enable us to reset the little buggers. After all it's not a crime to work on our trucks yet and if we could reset the flash memory or dump the logs, then BigBro wouldn't have anything to look at. It's just a thought.. I can't believe the tech in automotive processors is any higher than an industrial PLC or such.
I can pull the data out of Nissans with my laptop and some Aussie software and it allows me to read & clear logs, adjust shift points or ignition timing, read any sensors data and so on. Does Ford have anything like that out there?
JK
I can pull the data out of Nissans with my laptop and some Aussie software and it allows me to read & clear logs, adjust shift points or ignition timing, read any sensors data and so on. Does Ford have anything like that out there?
JK
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