torquing lug nuts
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Thanks for the quick reply. I am rotating the tires and I don't have access to a lift. I suppose I have to put all four wheels up (on jackstands) at same time to rotate the tires properly, don't I?
And does anyone know a good tool to get those factory lug covers off, without damageing them or the chrome wheels?
And does anyone know a good tool to get those factory lug covers off, without damageing them or the chrome wheels?
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One thing to consider, you are supposed to lubricate the swivel washer on the lug nut, not the stud threads. When you lubricate the threads you increase the final torque by 1.4 to 1.6 of the tool output value. It is easy to overtorque a lubricated stud and break it off. Use a good torque wrench go 150 to 165 ft/lbs, dry threads you will be OK. I am 6'6" and weigh a petit 265 lbs, I have to watch it when I put that many grunt pounds on a hand 4-way.
Rotate the tires, I don't bother with that. I just run a set of tires to 40K and get another set. But I do pull the wheels, one at a time, about every 10K and inspect everything. When I do put the front end up, or the back end, I jack on the axles where the U-bolts attach, not the differential chunk. I had a service shop do that one time and I caught them, when I left they had a understanding of plain old English.
Rotate the tires, I don't bother with that. I just run a set of tires to 40K and get another set. But I do pull the wheels, one at a time, about every 10K and inspect everything. When I do put the front end up, or the back end, I jack on the axles where the U-bolts attach, not the differential chunk. I had a service shop do that one time and I caught them, when I left they had a understanding of plain old English.
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Would the lug nuts be difficult to loosen without an impact wrench (say, with a regular 4-way wrench) if the torque were 150 ft/lbs?
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Ditto on the above info (150 lbs and anti-sieze on the washer/nut).
Question- If you add anti sieze and it gets on the stud threads, should you remove the lube off of the threads? I didn't so far and it seems fine after 10 months (torque)
Question- If you add anti sieze and it gets on the stud threads, should you remove the lube off of the threads? I didn't so far and it seems fine after 10 months (torque)
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I havn't torqued any wheels in years. I just use my impact gun you kinda get a feel for it after awhile.. no problems
Munkey: That stud you broke if you look at the picture was fractured long b4 it broke. I know you are a beef cake but I don't think normally a person could break one.. LOL
I don't feel that with 8 studs its all that important to worry about torque. Anywhere between 120 and 160 should keep the wheel on. As far as warping as with 5 lug car rims I don't feel thats an issue here..
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Munkey: That stud you broke if you look at the picture was fractured long b4 it broke. I know you are a beef cake but I don't think normally a person could break one.. LOL
I don't feel that with 8 studs its all that important to worry about torque. Anywhere between 120 and 160 should keep the wheel on. As far as warping as with 5 lug car rims I don't feel thats an issue here..
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Good advice Oneof6, that is EXACTLY why I broke my stud off, it had been lubricated!
As far as getting the lug covers off, the best tool I've found is the stock tire jack!! I've used a big screwdriver wrapped in a shop towel, and it only marred the cover and dented the wheel.
As far as getting the lug covers off, the best tool I've found is the stock tire jack!! I've used a big screwdriver wrapped in a shop towel, and it only marred the cover and dented the wheel.
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Outpost22, I like accurate torque readings. Whenever I use lubricated threads a factor is involved. Course threads .6, fine threads .4 times the recommended dry torque. I have assembled large rotating elements in the power industry for over twenty years this is what works for accurate torque applications.
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bkvanbek,
I'm not sure how the chrome wheel covers are set, but the cheap plastic ones on the steel wheels have little cut outs on them. The lug wrench under the hood is built to take them off at the end opposite the socket. Hope yours are set up this way too. By the way, when rotating the tires, I usually put jack stands in the front, and the jack under the axel in the back.
I'm not sure how the chrome wheel covers are set, but the cheap plastic ones on the steel wheels have little cut outs on them. The lug wrench under the hood is built to take them off at the end opposite the socket. Hope yours are set up this way too. By the way, when rotating the tires, I usually put jack stands in the front, and the jack under the axel in the back.
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