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if you look at the speeds the dodge only ran like a 150 point somthing and the lightning ran like a 147 something. the doge had like 500 hp and the lightning had 380 hp. if both trucks had the same hp the lightning would ship it all over the place. wait till the new one comes out.
Yes I was very surprised to see how actually poor the performance of the SRT-10 is for having 500hp. It really isn't that much faster than the L, and I guess you can't even really use it as a truck. I had a 02 L for 2 weeks but have not driven the SRT-10, but the dealer down the street has a few. I was also kind of surprised at the performance of the Hemi Ram pickups, for 345hp they are pretty slow....
I'm not really surprised, becasue the SloRamTruk-10 weighs, what, 5500 lbs and has the aerodynamics of a semi. Which has aways killed me, because it has always seemd that truck owners were the slowest to accept necessary change in their vehicles. At lesat Ford stepped up and made the F150 the most aerodynamic o the bunch. But they have even slipped a bit in the newest one, making it look more "burly" than the last iteration. I hope it doesn't affect its aerodynamics *too*, tho I'm afraid it's too late.
I still wouldnt pay the money for the new Dodge compared to the L. Drop a little money in the L and smoke the dodge and still have all kinds of money left over.I couldnt imagine what it will cost just to do a T-up to the new Dodge.
How do you know how much the "New" Lightning will cost? It may be close to the SRT-10 Ram.
Yes I was very surprised to see how actually poor the performance of the SRT-10 is for having 500hp. It really isn't that much faster than the L, and I guess you can't even really use it as a truck. I had a 02 L for 2 weeks but have not driven the SRT-10, but the dealer down the street has a few. I was also kind of surprised at the performance of the Hemi Ram pickups, for 345hp they are pretty slow....
With traction and good shifting a guy got the SRT-10 to run high 12s @ 107. Go to the website.
if you look at the speeds the dodge only ran like a 150 point somthing and the lightning ran like a 147 something. the doge had like 500 hp and the lightning had 380 hp. if both trucks had the same hp the lightning would ship it all over the place. wait till the new one comes out.
still 154 something is still very very slow for a truck with 500 hp in it and i ment in the 150's. the ram might run 12's in the quarter but doesnt the lightning run like 13's. still for 500 hp and the cost of the ram it is not very inpressive to me. i hear the new lightning is going to cost less than a, SRT= Slow Run Times, ram. they have a concept 2005 mustang cobra R out already and its race ready for $40,000 look for the lightning to cost around that or less. they would be crazy to price it high cause they sell alot of them now and SVT seems to be about providing an affordable high performance product.
still 154 something is still very very slow for a truck with 500 hp in it and i ment in the 150's. the ram might run 12's in the quarter but doesnt the lightning run like 13's. still for 500 hp and the cost of the ram it is not very inpressive to me. i hear the new lightning is going to cost less than a, SRT= Slow Run Times, ram. they have a concept 2005 mustang cobra R out already and its race ready for $40,000 look for the lightning to cost around that or less. they would be crazy to price it high cause they sell alot of them now and SVT seems to be about providing an affordable high performance product.
Both of my Lightnings ran 13.8 @100 stock. Plus everyone knows the 380bhp in the Lighting is underated more like 415-420 or at least everyone thats had one. Also the Lightning is 4680 lbs. The SRT-10 Ram is well over 5000lbs. SRT may equal slow run times in your book.....but its still faster then the Lightning. Maybe the new Lightning might be faster.....but its not out yet is it. This is coming from an ex-owner of 2 Lightnings.....I'm just not thick-headed and can admit when something is faster reguardless of price or bhp. Weight and areodynamics is a big issue, don't forget that. Plus is hard to sell a truck at a cheep price when the motor itself is $15,000 also with a Viper Six-speed with 22 inch wheels.
I believe Dodge just came out with the SRT-10 to out-do the Ford guys....Ford has always been on top of sales.....The only people who are going to buy the new Dodge ($50,000) are going to be someone who just won the lottery, or some old retired dude....Dont get me wrong I think the new SRT-10 looks pretty cool and is fast....but is that the only thing that trucks are about? I belive trucks are about heritage and of course beloning to FTE!! I love the lightnings, and come on guys....you can pick one up for an easy $20,000...thats 30k less than the SRT-10....can you imagine how much faster you could make the lightning if u had that much more money to spend?? A buddy of mine has about 500hp on his, with little work...i mean come on...some exahust work...a chip....FIPK.....maybe some gears...some boost....and of course 150= shot of nitros....geeeeezzzzz im getting all hot just thinkin bout it
Of course Dodge just built the SRT-10 to top Ford, that's the name of the game! Same goes for the new cummins coming out soon with 600 ft-lbs of torque. Dodge will soon have the most powerful and fastest stock trucks on the market, period. I just wish we could get whoever is on a power trip at Dodge to come work for Ford.
And quit talking about modifications...if we're gonna do that I'll take a ranger, slap in a turbo 4 cylinder and whoop all of the new lightnings for under just the purchase price of an L.
Of course Dodge just built the SRT-10 to top Ford, that's the name of the game! Same goes for the new cummins coming out soon with 600 ft-lbs of torque. Dodge will soon have the most powerful and fastest stock trucks on the market, period. I just wish we could get whoever is on a power trip at Dodge to come work for Ford.
And quit talking about modifications...if we're gonna do that I'll take a ranger, slap in a turbo 4 cylinder and whoop all of the new lightnings for under just the purchase price of an L.
Eh, jsut a matter of time for Ford to do it themselves... they started it with the Lightning, continued it with the new Powerstroke (and embarrassed the hell outof Dodge and GM), so now Dodge have upped the ante.
And, since you mentioned it, why don't you do it?? "Money where your mouth is", is how the saying goes??
The only way you can get an L for $20,000 is maybe with a 99-00 with about 80,000 miles on it. The SRT-10 is brand new, soon they will stop marking them up and sale them for sticker price $45,000. They come with 22-inch wheels....22s are a lot of $$$ and so are the tires that come on them. Pluse the Viper V-10 and six-speed. I don't see how you need to be old and retired for afford it....or win the lottery. Hell a Mustang Cobra Convertable cost damn close to $40,000 and you see them all over the place....maybe there are jjust more retired folk and lottery winners then I thought.
Eh, jsut a matter of time for Ford to do it themselves... they started it with the Lightning, continued it with the new Powerstroke (and embarrassed the hell outof Dodge and GM), so now Dodge have upped the ante.
And, since you mentioned it, why don't you do it?? "Money where your mouth is", is how the saying goes??
What are you talking about? Dodge answered back....thats how its always been done.
peopel need to start talking to ford and telling them what they want. every time i get a survey from them in the comments section i write a letter and tell them what i want. the best way for the public to see any results from ford is to write them and voice you opinon. you might think it wont work i am only one voice. but what if there are thousands of other people out there thinking what you are and writing in and telling them. itsa just time for the public to speak out and tell ford what we want.
Put my money where my mouth is as far as build a ranger? It was just a point man...if I do anything I'll build that all aluminum 440ci 351w based on the new Dart block and drop it in my '94 Lightning. Who'll want some then? Hehe.
It basically boils down to this, (KC I think you'll agree) Dodge has beaten Ford. Right now, Dodge sells the fastest and most powerful trucks, period. True the SRT-10 costs more, but you get a larger cab, nicer wheels, a 6 SPEED!, a V-10, and probably better mileage to boot. Even if ford does build a better lightning, it'll be in that even uglier new body. Congrats to Dodge, we'll kindly accept defeat until our new weapons arrive from Ford.
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