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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 03:20 PM
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Hey Strjock81 ,
Thanks for the reply . I kinda figured that disabling the wastegate would allow the boost levels to go up without producing blowby but do we really need to exceed 22 psi ? How much more power can you expect by disabling the wastegate ?
 
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 05:45 PM
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do we really need to exceed 22 psi
No, you don't need to, and without a chip it is unlikely you will be able to.

The primary benefit of disabling the wastegate is it allows the turbo to spool up quicker, so it will feel like you are making more power when in actuality you are not. You are just using what you already have more efficiently.
 
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Old Dec 17, 2003 | 10:12 PM
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about 2-3 psi more with the wastegate unplugged...


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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 01:01 PM
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If there are no drawbacks to doing this why is it wastegated in the first place....Thats what I can't seem to figure out.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 08:30 PM
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What I dont understand about disabling the wastegate is why would it ever be open at all under acceleration in the first place? I've done a few things to my truck and the check engine light comes on because I hit 26 pounds of boost, so I would assume that my wastegate is not opening as I accelerate and only while I decelerate. I also do not have an aftermarket chip or program to keep the wastegate closed.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 10:40 PM
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If there are no drawbacks to doing this why is it wastegated in the first place
It's not. You can buy the turbo, or just the housing from Garrett without the wastegate. The Garrett rating on a GTP-38 is 25psi, Ford (and probably the EPA, CAFE, or whatever) mandate that it produce less than 20. That's why the fuel map on a stock PCM tops out at ~17, the wastegate is there to make sure it dosen't go past that.

There is also a possibility of excessive backpressure issues in the undersized exhaust housing, but that is a non-issue without much greater than stock fuel flow, or an exhaust brake.

What I dont understand about disabling the wastegate is why would it ever be open at all under acceleration in the first place?
It opens anytime you are making more than 5psi in order to control your maximum boost. Your SES light comes on to tell you that you have exceeded the maximum boost limit (set by Ford) and the PCM is defueling.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 08:41 AM
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Thanks for that reply cookie, that cleared things up a lot! I think I'll unplug it next week when my boost guage goes on!
 
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Old Dec 23, 2003 | 02:51 PM
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SO

On a stock 03 PSD 7.3, what are the benny's of doing it.
What are the Draw backs of doing it.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2003 | 09:31 PM
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That's what this post is all about. Have you read both pages?

cookie88, great reply...

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Old Dec 23, 2003 | 10:15 PM
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great info, Scott!
you da man----------> AGAIN!
 
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 08:47 PM
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I just bought a 2000 PSD on Monday, and on the way home from the dealer, the check engine light came on twice, both times under hard acceleration, and at fairly high RPMs. I checked the red line to the wastegate, and although it is hooked up, the rubber tube between what looks like a restrictor and the wastegate is in pretty poor shape. I wonder if high boost is what caused my light to come on? Any ideas?

I won't be able to do a scan till the 26th or so to see what the codes are.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 09:08 PM
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Yep, that's what is called a "boost tube". It does basically the same thing as just unplugging it. Back in the earlier days of PSD performance several of the chip makers included a boost tube with their chips because they weren't yet aware of all the programming parameters available to them and that was the easiest way to get more boost.

Your truck likely has, or has had a chip in it.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 09:18 PM
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So, if I have the boost tube, do you think I have a performance chip? Where is the ECU and how do I tell if it has a custom chip? I am familiar with the old EEC IV systems, but don't know what they put on the new ones.

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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 10:00 PM
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It's down on the driver's side kick panel behind the e-brake. You'll have to pull the black plastic cover off of it and look at the access port on the back side of the PCM.
 
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Old Dec 24, 2003 | 10:42 PM
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OK. So the "chip" is attached to the access port, as opposed to replacing a PROM inside the computer? I have a GM computer on my 73 vette, and have to actually replace the EPROM inside the computer. Sounds like the Ford system is different.
 
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