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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 10:21 AM
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Its based off of the 700
Personally I think it's a better gun.
They just improved off of what the 700 was
 
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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 11:07 AM
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Last I knew- the .308 Remington 700's were around $700- but that was 2 years ago and the 710 sounds a bit different but along the same lines.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 11:13 AM
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The PPK/PP is a nice gun but the 380 or worse 32 are right on the edge of accepatble for a self defense gun. A 9, 10 or 45 may be better.

There are very compact 9s and even 45s out there that are about the same size as a PP and even PPK. I have heard the Star and another Spanish make are very nice very compact 9s and 45s for a reasonable price. The Russian Makarov and knockoffs is an interesting gun that has a bit more power than a 380 but is about the same size as a PP. I even think it comes in 9.

The gotcha is that all these compacts are relatively inaccurate and even the 380 has a nasty kick. I am a fairly big guy, 6'4 and way too uh muscular, yeah that's it, muscular, and have fired thousands of rounds, and even I don't like to fire my 380 PP. I prefer the feel of my Browning Hi Power 9 or my Randall 45ACP. But then for concealed carry, accuracy and comfort in firing are not the big deciding factors. When you need to use a concealed carry, you probably are pretty close and desperate anyway.

The DCM M1 are kind of a crap shoot. I have seen and played with 3 or 4 of these, own two. Some are almost pristine like new and others are real beaters, but still better than many on the open market. The US arsenal guns are at least in pretty good condition as far as corrosion and pitting. Some do have worn barrels. My personal DCM, which I earned thru a match in the 80s was almost like new and an excellent shooter. Another DCM I bought from a friend looks decent but the barrel is a bit worn and it shoots so so.

You are right though. The AR15 with the right bullets can be a tack driver. My two AR15s shoot dime size 3 shot groups at 100 yards with open sights off a bench. They are becoming very popular for military style matches. Their only weakness seems to be long range windy conditions. Still I do love my personal M1.

Just my opinions,

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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 12:21 PM
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heres my collection of guns:

remington 870 3 1/2 magnum 12g pump deer gun scope
remington 1187 3in auto
remington 870 3in 20g pump
remington over and under 12g
remington over and under 16g
mosseberg bolt action 16g
mosseberg bolt action 12g
henry sigle shot 12g
henry sigle shot 20g
remington 243 rifle scope
303 british rifle
sks 7.62x39 rifle 30 round clip
remington auto 10 shot .22 rifle scope
marlin auto 17 shot .22 rifle scope
henry sinle **** .22
ruger 10/22 .22 rifle scope
ruger 9mm hand gun
colt .45 handgun
colt .22 handgun

and i also collect old shotgun shells clear back in the paper and old metal shells.

i take the .243 out target shooting a lot, old toilets are fun to shoot at, at 200 yards i can hit a pop can, ive collected guns for years as well as the shells.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 12:26 PM
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Yall people need to go out and buy a Taurus, now those are some good handguns.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 12:28 PM
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also i own a 1954 Russian SKS 7.62x39 its barely even been shot, i just bought it for the condition it was in, and the fact that its one of the greatest guns ever made. BUT id like to know- do you NEED a sks front sight tool to adjust the front site, or is there a way to do it without the tool? also, the front sight post seems like its to the left in the front sight hood, instinct would tell me that the pin should be centered shouldnt it? its never been damaged, so its not like its bent or something
 
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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 12:36 PM
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I believe the SKS front site is slide back and forth with a hammer and drift.

The front post elevation is a screw threaded deal- there is a special tool to spin it around but sometimes needle nose work if careful.

Jimmy- Taurus is all right but nothing to get excited about. Kinda like generic toilet paper compared to Charmin or something.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 12:51 PM
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Hmm....ya know, you are the second person I have ever met who believes that, everyone else says that that is what they wehre 15 or 20 years ago but have since become one of the better guns out there. And for sure one of the best for the buck.


p.s. I love mine. I have never fired a 45 with that little amount of kick. or one with that much ability to be conceiled.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 12:55 PM
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jimmy dean, i dont really understand your latest post, what are you reffering to? my post about the SKS ? and the .45 part... my USP expert has very low kick back but it doesnt seem toooo concealable.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 01:05 PM
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No, Jeffs post on te anti-taurus
 
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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 02:25 PM
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I've shot a taurus and I liked it
As for the 700/710 resemblance
The 710 is based on the 700
 
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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 05:31 PM
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BuiltoughF250

I have a Glock 17 and a HK-USP COMP 40S&W and love it. I normally keep it in a fanny pack and it is very concealable in the waste band. There is more kick with the Glock than with the HK.

My friend has a Russian SKS and it is Awesome. No mis-feeds or other sticks in over 1000 rounds. Accurate up to about 250yrds.

I had a snubbie 357 Taurus and could not hit anything with it. Very nice gun and would use it for a last chance, but it is not the first one that I would grab.
 
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