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Old May 5, 2026 | 01:14 PM
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advice on u-joints for driveshafts

Hey Gents,

I need to pull the driveshaft to check the pinion nut and slip joint, and I realized all the driveshaft u joints on my 2002 4WD off-road are original. 240k miles. I changed the carrier bearing ten years back.

Any advice on brand? Dana/Spicer? Moog? Stick to FORD only for rear driveshaft?

I see some options from FVP and GMB on Rock Auto but I don't know those brands and Im not interested in cheap parts.

Apple Ford says they think the three rear driveshaft u-joints are all part # BC3Z-4635-B.



This guy tackled the job using SPICER.


 
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Old May 5, 2026 | 01:29 PM
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Buy Spicer non greasable ones unless you want to do them again in 10 minutes.

5-801x, SPL36, or 1410x
 

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Old May 5, 2026 | 01:46 PM
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why not the greasable Spicers?
 
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Old May 5, 2026 | 02:45 PM
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1. The trunnion seals are soft on greaseable u-joints. They don't keep moisture or debris out.

2. Greaseable u-joints are often never......uh.....greased.

3. When they're greased, they are often OVER-GREASED. This unseats the seals and then the "seal" is even less of one and whatever grease is in it will be flung out. After that, unless they're greased every few thousand miles, they will be dry.

4. Non-greaseable ones already lasted 240K and 24 years. Why put in something that will in no way ever last close to that mileage?
 
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Old May 5, 2026 | 02:51 PM
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Thanks for your thoughts.

Need to figure out which DANA Spicer non-greaseable are appropriate for my truck. Multiple sizes on RockAuto.

FYI I greased my front wheel u joints the other day!! So proud.
 
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Old May 5, 2026 | 03:09 PM
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Your front axle u-joints also started life as non greaseable units and will suffer the same fate if overgreased. If grease squishes out from under the cap, it's going to like constant attention.

If you have three single cardan joints, they will be 1410s. If you have a double cardan joint, it will contain 1350 u-joints in that unit and 1410s in the other positions. I recommend letting a professional shop do it if the double cardan joint needs u-joints.


 
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Old May 5, 2026 | 03:29 PM
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Its squished and squirted...yes.





I have 3 singles on my 2 piece rear driveshaft. The front driveshaft is double cardan joint me thinks.

Looks like RockAuto has two 1410 options:




Are these 1350's correct for the front?





 
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Old May 5, 2026 | 04:51 PM
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Ford comes with stamped with spicer on the part definitely get non grease able.

after earring a merit badge for DIY u joints learned it’s best to drop it off at a drive line shop w the parts. Then they can balance it as well.
 
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^^^This. I have a vibration at around 42mph, caused, I thought, by tires, but after swapping to the medium duty tires/wheels, the vibration is still there. U-joints and carrier bearing appear tight when I shake them, but they may be contributing. The drive shafts themselves may be out of balance - so taking the driveline to a shop at the next convenient time.
 
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Old May 5, 2026 | 08:44 PM
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Spicer lifetime non-greasable was my choice many years ago and it was the right one.
 
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Old May 6, 2026 | 08:15 AM
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I am the driveline shop.
 
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I am the driveline shop.
Just remember that no matter how good you think your mechanical abilities are, we all need a bit of help at times. Which is why you are here and created this thread...
 
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Old May 6, 2026 | 09:15 AM
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100% but I also avoid using 3rd parties for repairs to the maximum extent practicable.
 
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Just put them back together the way they came apart and it'll be fine.. I use a sharp punch as a scribe. A ball joint c-clamp makes quick work of those. Us an impact to take them apart but not to put them back together... Also use a flat file when you gubber the inside edge of the yoke to u-joint surface.. You'll know what I'm talking about once you start doing the work. Also for SAG go ahead and get a new center support for it... When taking the big nut off to do the center support make sure you index that correctly as well. Cut old center support off is sometimes needed...
 

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Old May 6, 2026 | 05:21 PM
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This guy let someone who had no business working on vehicles replace his center support.. It had a vibration and was eating u-joints.. 2 other shops beside the one that screwed it up said they had no idea what it could be after replacing some other things that didn't fix the issue...

 
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