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Old May 15, 2026 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Summitracing
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This is a bit of an odd one. The Comp CCA-35-512-8 should use a 6.248" stock length pushrod in a factory roller 302. Adding lift does take away from the base circle, but this isn't a "big" cam, and Comp calls it out as working with stock pushrods, so that alone shouldn't make the pushrods seem drastically too short.

Something else in the valvetrain stack is likely causing the discrepancy in pushrod length.
  • Lifter seat height
  • Collapsed or fast-bleed lifters
  • Valve tip height
  • Pedestal/rocker stack differences
That said, if those are Ford Performance FMS-M-6500-R302 lifters, they are intended as stock replacement hydraulic roller lifters, so we normally wouldn't expect a major seat height difference there.

At this point, you could either check the valvetrain geometry with a pushrod length checker and dial caliper or convert it to a stud-mount adjustable roller rocker and give yourself some adjustment range there.

Either way, you still want good geometry. Even with adjustable rockers, you’d still want to verify preload, rocker sweep pattern, etc. For those Ford Performance lifters, Ford recommends around .020"-.060" preload, or roughly 1/4 to 3/4 turn past zero lash.
We did order a pushrod length checker as well as some conversion studs and adjustable rockers from you guys. Hopefully this weekend we can get this sorted. It certainly is a mystery why things didn’t fit as well as expected. Aside from the rocker noise the truck idles and moves around the yard just fine.
 
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Old May 15, 2026 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Dentside Lover
My 78 f-250 have dummy gauges same with my 89 f150 and 90 f-250.
I don’t know about ‘78 but your ‘89 & ‘90 matches what I said about the real gauge ending sometime in ‘88. Because of customers complaining about the needle moving “too much”, Ford replaced the sending unit with a switch and put a resistor on the circuit board.
 
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Old May 16, 2026 | 11:46 PM
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The truck is finally quiet, the studs and adjustable rockers did the trick. To further muddy the mystery though, we had only been working on the driver’s head until now. When we removed the passenger valve cover, all the rockers on that side were tight. We replaced them all anyway with studs and adjustable rockers. Why would all the rockers on one side be loose and tight on the other side.

 
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Old May 17, 2026 | 05:48 AM
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My guess is that since you have a used motor with no knowledge of previous work, one head was milled more than the other or a thicker/thinner head gasket was used on one side. Those would affect the entire side. I guess the block could have been decked at not the same amount also.
 
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Old May 17, 2026 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Sycostang67
Why would all the rockers on one side be loose and tight on the other side.
Does not matter why someone did that, the fact is that they were and now they are not. Good thing it's back running again.

Anyone can buy a set of tools and call them a mechanic, that does not make it true.
 
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Old May 17, 2026 | 08:25 PM
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It's all speculation due to the used engine
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The valve job on one head might have had the seats ground more than the other head
 
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