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Old Mar 19, 2026 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by knottyrope
ohm out the 42 pin side again with the injectors unplugged
They should all be open, if they show any ohms under 1000, you have a short in the harness
I'll try that tomorrow Knottyrope, I'll unplug the injectors.

Originally Posted by fordman67
Sure you don't want to swap the spare idm in and see before All that work? I can't say for sure but at the low miles that truck has I just can't believe it's a harness issue
Hi Aaron, I did swap the spare IDM in and it acted the same. I have not tried the spare PCM yet though. I'll put that harness back together and try again tomorrow. Its only 105* down here now, way to early for that kind of heat! The truck has 185K on it but the motor is about 50K. Thanks Aaron!
 
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Old Mar 20, 2026 | 08:45 AM
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i will trade you the 105 degrees for the current 27 degrees here in joisey!!!!
 
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Old Mar 20, 2026 | 09:21 AM
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Boil your brain or freeze your *****? lol When I work on the truck I put up a umbrella if the wind isn't blowing hard! The truck must not like the Maaco paint job or the new tires I bought?
 
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Old Mar 20, 2026 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by knottyrope
ohm out the 42 pin side again with the injectors unplugged
They should all be open, if they show any ohms under 1000, you have a short in the harness
First of all, I don't know what I'm doing! With the one wire from the multimeter on the negitive post of the battery I ohmed out the 42 pin and all except for two had OL. The two that 'beeped' the multimeter were 33 and 39 pins I think? The 33 is connected 'I think' to that ground wire that goes around the foil that wrapped around a group of wires. The other is center pin on the top that has seven pins. From what I can find is its pin 39 (795 DG) whatever that is?? I cleaned the plugs with electronic cleaner and put it back in the connector. Plugged the injectors back in and fired it up. It still ran rough but not as bad. I had what seemed to be black smoke & white smoke when before it didn't smoke much at all. Monday I get the pigtail from Clay and the new CPS. I'll ohm out the UVCH better with the pigtail and try the new CPS. I then proceeded to take the PCM out cleaned those connections and pins but gave up for the day when it hit 103*. I didn't want heat stroke, I'll try my spare PCM tomorrow!
 
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Old Mar 21, 2026 | 03:13 PM
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Put my spare PCM in, no change. Smoke was pouring out and running rough. I thought what the hell, I'll take it around the block. Two blocks from home with my foot heavy on the gas it started running good again. That's the second time its done that. So I did a cyc test on my scan gauge, it passed. I did a buzz test and came back with two codes that I got before, p0267 (injector current low cyc #3) and p1298 (IDM failure). Its hard for me to believe that both my IDM's are acting up. When its running good I also did the shake test on the wire harness and VC plugs, it didn't hesitate and kept running smooth. I'm going to leave it alone until Monday when I get my VC pigtail for testing. I'm wondering if my problem is cyc #3? But like I said before, even with one injector out it should not have acted that bad.

Or, after thinking about it for a while, I think I've read that if the IDM senses a short or problem it will shut down that bank. Maybe that's what's going on?
 

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Old Mar 21, 2026 | 06:24 PM
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I'll try that tomorrow Knottyrope, I'll unplug the injectors.



Hi Aaron, I did swap the spare IDM in and it acted the same. I have not tried the spare PCM yet though. I'll put that harness back together and try again tomorrow. Its only 105* down here now, way to early for that kind of heat! The truck has 185K on it but the motor is about 50K. Thanks Aaron!
Well crap. Im sorry I missed that you swapped idm already (forehead palm).
105..ugg I heard about the record heat.
Maybe it is in VC adjacent. Dang,I hoped to not have to get in there.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2026 | 06:25 PM
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I'll try that tomorrow Knottyrope, I'll unplug the injectors.



Hi Aaron, I did swap the spare IDM in and it acted the same. I have not tried the spare PCM yet though. I'll put that harness back together and try again tomorrow. Its only 105* down here now, way to early for that kind of heat! The truck has 185K on it but the motor is about 50K. Thanks Aaron!
Well crap. Im sorry I missed that you swapped idm already (forehead palm).
105..ugg I heard about the record heat.
Maybe it is in VC adjacent. Dang,I hoped to not have to get in there.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2026 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by fordman67
Well crap. Im sorry I missed that you swapped idm already (forehead palm).
105..ugg I heard about the record heat.
Maybe it is in VC adjacent. Dang,I hoped to not have to get in there.
I'll get in there if I have to, of course. Twice now #3 has come up. A lot of this is confusing to me but one of the things that bothers me is two members said I should ohm the harness thru the IDM connector. Post # 7 I gave the results, ohm readings from 3 to 19. That can't be normal, is it Aaron? All of this might boil down to a loose #3 injector wiring plug knocking out that bank thru the IDM? I'll keep plugging away at it, the best thing about this is that I'm not on the side of the road. Been there, done that to many times! Thanks Aaron!
 
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Old Mar 22, 2026 | 06:54 AM
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Hey Glenn. When you say the times its running good are you sure its not running on 7 and not 8 but seems ok since you've had it running so poorly? Maybe it came unplugged and is shorting, or maybe it is still plugged in and has an issue and is hitting on all 8 when ok. My guess is you have a wiring issue with that one injector causing an occasional short, #3 right? Then the idm is shutting down that bank. I'd say its time to pull the valve cover.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2026 | 09:24 AM
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Hi Darin, that's my next move. I'm real sure it running on eight when its 'running good'. I'm putting it off for two reasons, one is this heat and the other is Thur I need to take my 5er in for warranty work. Its only two miles down the street but would really like to keep that appointment. Anyway, thanks for posting and I hope your doing good!
 
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Old Mar 22, 2026 | 11:20 AM
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Doing ok Glenn. Hopefully you find something obvious when you get in there. Been hot here too. 85 yesterday, set the record by 14 degrees. Snow this morning though. Lol
 
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Old Mar 22, 2026 | 11:52 AM
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I bought this place in AZ 17 years ago and this is the first time its been over 100* between Oct to April, CRAZY! 85 to snow CRAZY!
 
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Old Mar 22, 2026 | 05:08 PM
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It was a cool 98* today so I couldn't help myself and dove into the passenger side VC. That back bolt is such a bitch, any way didn't find anything obvious, #3 was plugged in just like the rest of them. By that time my brain was boiling so I came inside. I did get the VC gasket off, its OK. Almost dropped my half of a quarter that I put in there to keep it from unplugging, forgot about that. Tomorrow I'll take off the wiring and see if I can find anything wrong with it. Thanks guys for letting me journal this and bounce this stuff off of you guys!
 
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Old Mar 23, 2026 | 07:13 PM
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Today I pulled the wire harness out on the passenger side. There is no evidence of any broken wires, I checked continuity of all the wires and didn't find anything wrong. I cut one of the injector plugs off and plugged it into all four injectors and every one of the injectors ohmed out at 3.2. I also pulled the top of injector #3 off and checked the armature plate to see if it was loose, it was OK. Tomorrow I'm going out early and put it back together and see what I've got. I forgot to ohm the GP's, I'll do that before the VC goes back on, I've got some spare GP somewhere.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2026 | 08:01 PM
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have you thought about swapping #3 injector with another hole to see if the issue follows the injector or stays in #3 hole??
 
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