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Old Mar 21, 2026 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by seijirou
I think you misread. It looks to me like he was agreeing with you.
"the oil manufacturers just love this thought process"

It's hard to glean the meaning sometimes, I mean that sincerely.
 

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Old Mar 21, 2026 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Isthatahemi
Actually there is a significant body of evidence from Honda and others telling people to NOT do early changes as proper break-in was not happening.
That was because of the special high-moly formula that Honda was shipping with because those engines needed especially high friction protection to prevent hot spots until break in was complete. This is another way of saying our machining tolerances weren't particularly good and we made up with it by shipping exotic oil. If you knew what you were doing those engines also would have benefited from early and often oil changes, you just needed to use the high-moly formula. It's not as if the glitter in the oil was helping anything.

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I've also noticed other brands that used to recommend early changes (BRP for one) have now stopped. And that has nothing to do with the EPA which is the reason cited many times. Ford has not, and and does not recommend early changes for any reason or application, including these EPA exempt trucks. Something to consider.

Ford keeps increasing oil capacity for 1 reason only, to extend change intervals.
No argument there but I stand by my statement these all still benefit from early and often oil changes. That benefit may not be realized until mile 350k+ though, it really depends. So whether or not someone cares for their purposes is different. You've made it clear in other threads that factors 150k+ miles away aren't on your radar because you move on to something else so your approach makes perfect sense for you.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2026 | 03:17 AM
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Usually im a bit early changing oil out of new engines. Most of my 4 wheeled vehicles get one at 1k and the 2 wheels get the first at 200 miles.

No harm in running the first engine swap early. The bikes wet clutch leaves lots of swarf.

Years ago had a mate running a fleet of trucks. Had a few new engines go in at the same time, one he did early at 1k, the second he let go until 5k.
The results, no difference between the two, three years and 120k later.

Way too many variables to come a definitive. Quality oil can be had for a low price, I see no harm.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2026 | 08:34 AM
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I recommend that you follow the manufactures service recommendations and keep all receipts and document everything you do.

Hopefully you never use your warrenty, but if you do and it is an oil related failure, you want to make sure that Ford does not try and deny coverage because you did not do the recommended maintenance.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2026 | 08:59 AM
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I was in agreement
 

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Old Mar 22, 2026 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by seijirou
I think you misread. It looks to me like he was agreeing with you.
Yes, i was in agreement
 
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Old Mar 22, 2026 | 07:44 PM
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The change engine oil message came on around 3500 miles for me.No towing, idle hours 18%...
 
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