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Hey guys. I need a bit of help with this. In the heater box I'm working on, the brass/copper core is 7.25"x6"x2", but it butts up against the sides of the restraints inside the box. Isn't there supposed to be an oem seal on either side? And, if so, what size core is supposed to be in this box? Is it the 6x6" size?
I'm pretty sure that I was the first one to open this up on my '76.
I believe the arrow is pointing to a piece of foam similar to the top piece that holds the heater core in.
I hope this helps.
Hey guys. I need a bit of help with this. In the heater box I'm working on, the brass/copper core is 7.25"x6"x2", but it butts up against the sides of the restraints inside the box. Isn't there supposed to be an oem seal on either side? And, if so, what size core is supposed to be in this box? Is it the 6x6" size?
Looking at Rock Auto, 1977 FORD F-150 6.6L 400cid V8 Heater Core | RockAuto Looks like a few sizes, depending on if AC&heat or heat only, etc. Most of the choices show dimensions under the picture after you click on it.
Looking at Rock Auto, 1977 FORD F-150 6.6L 400cid V8 Heater Core | RockAuto Looks like a few sizes, depending on if AC&heat or heat only, etc. Most of the choices show dimensions under the picture after you click on it.
Thanks, tbear. I did look at the list on RA. There I found so many different sizes, diff lengths, heights and thicknesses that I posted here in order to hopefully get a standard size. But it doesn't seem as though anyone really knows. I have tried to order from O'reilley's and Azone, and got the wrong size each time, no matter what size the computer said it was. What I have now, the core, is 7.25" x6x2. I will test it in water, and if that doesn't leak, I may just go with it. What I see is that maybe the 6x6 is standard, w/o a/c. The extra space on either side inside the housing is supposed to be taken up with foam or some sort of rubber spacer.
Thanks for the help.
Thanks, tbear. I did look at the list on RA. There I found so many different sizes, diff lengths, heights and thicknesses that ... etc ...
Yeah, so I saw, I thought was just AC or Non-AC. Was a couple near your measure I think. My truck has the AC box from a '79 crew cab w/AC that was junked already in 1986, but that core leaked. The core in it I tested with air in a bucket of water came out of a long parked '73 regular cab w/AC up on a hill side behind a wrecker's garage.
Some info from Number Dummy from a long time ago. For anyone looking for a brass/copper core Advanced Auto part # 398304 is the correct one. It is also the same core that fits early, 68'ish mustangs. Part number just in case it is needed in the future: For A/C 18476-1A, for non A/C 18476-2.
Also NAPA, but makes sure and ask are they aluminum or copper? Copper is what you want. Heater core, high output heater C6OZ-18476-B
Antique Auto Supply, Arlington, TX (817) 275=2381
Wesley Obsolete Parts, Liberty, KY (606) 787-5293
Dennis Carpenter, Concord, NC also has 1, but they have it listed under C60Z-18476-B, the third digit is "zero" instead of the correct letter "O". (704) 786-8139
Some info from Number Dummy from a long time ago. For anyone looking for a brass/copper core Advanced Auto part # 398304 is the correct one. It is also the same core that fits early, 68'ish mustangs. Part number just in case it is needed in the future: For A/C 18476-1A, for non A/C 18476-2.
Also NAPA, but makes sure and ask are they aluminum or copper? Copper is what you want. Heater core, high output heater C6OZ-18476-B
Antique Auto Supply, Arlington, TX (817) 275=2381
Wesley Obsolete Parts, Liberty, KY (606) 787-5293
Dennis Carpenter, Concord, NC also has 1, but they have it listed under C60Z-18476-B, the third digit is "zero" instead of the correct letter "O". (704) 786-8139
Heater core w/factory A/C or hi-low comfort vent system D3TZ-18476-A
Std Heater core D3TZ-18476-C
Thanks for the help 77&79F250. I did find that NPD has a copper/brass core for $88 something, about $112 with postage and tax. I am waiting for them to send the dimensions before I buy it and wait for it to be delivered. I have tested the cop/brass core I have and there doesn't seem to be any leaks, but since I don't know how old it is, and because I have the heater box out now, and b/c one of the hose attachment nipples are bent, I thought it a good idea to get a new one as preventative maintenance. Just looking at the listings on RockAuto, I am surprised that there are so many sizes. I know I have mentioned this before, but both Azone and O'reilley's checked the size prior to ordering, and when the part showed up it was a different size than what the computer said it was. I guess with a 50 year old vehicle, things get mixed up. I wonder if that is the case with other parts for our trucks.
Everyone says to get the cop/brass core instead of the aluminum model. Why is that? Is that to keep with the original style, or have people had bad experiences with aluminum cores? Please educate me regarding this.
Copper/brass version is more durable when it comes to handleing todays antifreeze. At least that is what I head at Howard Johnsons last night.
Copper brass heater cores are generally considered superior to aluminum ones due to their better heat transfer capabilities, durability, and resistance to corrosion. Copper's higher thermal conductivity allows for faster and more efficient heat transfer from the coolant to the air, resulting in better heating performance. Additionally, copper brass heater cores are often more durable and resistant to corrosion than aluminum, especially in harsh environments.
Copper/brass version is more durable when it comes to handleing todays antifreeze. At least that is what I head at Howard Johnsons last night.
Copper brass heater cores are generally considered superior to aluminum ones due to their better heat transfer capabilities, durability, and resistance to corrosion. Copper's higher thermal conductivity allows for faster and more efficient heat transfer from the coolant to the air, resulting in better heating performance. Additionally, copper brass heater cores are often more durable and resistant to corrosion than aluminum, especially in harsh environments.
Thank you for the info. BTW, today I called National Parts Depot and asked about the size of the cores (copper and brass) that they have in their catalog. "Nope, can't get measurements," they said. "If you have this year, this part will fit." That really sucks.
So, after a lot of searching and noting the sizes out there, It seems that a 73-77 w/o a/c takes a 6x6x2" core. The 78&79 take a 6x7.75x2" core. And this is only copper/brass I'm talking about. It seems that once you get into aluminum cores the sizes get wonky, some having only a 1.25" thick core!
Today I took my existing core, copp/brss, that I bought used, and pressure tested it with two plugs in the hose bibs and a can of spray in one plug with the core submerged. No leaks. It pressurized it so well that it blew one of the plugs out and I got sprayed on my face.
I also ordered a new fan and when it came it had a large hole in the side of the case, and small holes around the case where the shaft sticks out. The oem moter had no vent? holes, so I sent it back and ordered one on RockAuto that is made in Canada w/o the holes.
I should mention that the foam pipe insulation, cut in strips with a razor blade, worked well to pack the sides of the core. I sprayed on some spray adhesive, let it dry a bit, and pushed the core into place. I used flat 2" wide foam on top and bottom, and had to pack well around the inlet pipes. I found foil tape to seal where the body meets the defrost assembly.
I heard back from NPD. Part #F-18476-4A has a 6x6 core, but the over-all size is 6X7.5x2", and that is copper brass.
A kit with the fan motor to box gasket and seal, the seal around the core (top, bottom and sides), the gasket for fresh air intake on the right, the gasket/seal for defrost assembly to box, and the flapper replacement rubbers would be a much needed kit for our trucks. It is a bit painful to reassemble my heater box with 50 year old flappers. But, you know, those 50 year old flappers will probably out last some new made in china crappy flappers anyway.