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Old May 5, 2025 | 08:45 AM
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Power steering pump help

I have an 81 f250 and the power steering pump went out and I've look everywhere for a pump that comes with a pulley. does anyone know where I can find one?
 
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Old May 5, 2025 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Quinn Burns
I have an 81 f250 and the power steering pump went out and I've look everywhere for a pump that comes with a pulley. does anyone know where I can find one?
Have you looked on Rockauto.com? I'm thinking you have to pull the pulley off the old and press it on the new. If you don't have the right tools many autoparts stores loan them or go to a machine shop near you and have them pull it off for you. I have done that before. Press on to the new one. What ever you do don't ruin the one on there by using the wrong puller. If you bend one you're likely going to have a hard time finding a replacement.
 
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Old May 5, 2025 | 12:19 PM
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Have you looked on Rockauto.com? I'm thinking you have to pull the pulley off the old and press it on the new. If you don't have the right tools many autoparts stores loan them or go to a machine shop near you and have them pull it off for you. I have done that before. Press on to the new one. What ever you do don't ruin the one on there by using the wrong puller. If you bend one you're likely going to have a hard time finding a replacement.
yeah that's the problem I tried to remove it and it bent out of shape pretty bad but I cant find a replacement. rock auto does not have any.
 
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Old May 5, 2025 | 12:26 PM
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is the junkyards site, see if you can find one close to you.

As said, most auto part stores will press off the old pulley and press it into the new one. A local place did that for the Alt a few years back.
 
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Old May 5, 2025 | 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Quinn Burns
I have an 81 f250 and the power steering pump went out and I've look everywhere for a pump that comes with a pulley. does anyone know where I can find one?
Which engine? 2WD or 4WD? All that stuff is discontinued but I should be able to give you the part number for the correct pulley anyways. You might find one searching Ebay etc.

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Old May 5, 2025 | 01:00 PM
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or just ask google.

https://www.google.com/search?q=powe...hrome&ie=UTF-8
 
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Applied Industrial has pulleys. You're going to have to search their database by pulley and arbor diameters. They might have one that will work for you.
 
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Old May 5, 2025 | 01:13 PM
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You could try a machine shop to straighten your pulley. It couldn't hurt to ask them. If it's not too #@(*ed up they might be able to straighten it.
 
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You can't press the pulley on and off, it will damage the pump. You cannot sell a new pump with a pulley, the pulley must come off to install the pump. If you get one from the junkyard, you will have to take the brackets with you, they will be stuck on the pump.

All this will go much more smoothly if you get the correct pulley removal tool. Like this.

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Why do none of the OEM's make a bracket with a slot in it to remove the pump AND the pulley? That is the million dollar question.
 
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Old May 5, 2025 | 02:13 PM
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Dave F, I see that puller has this info, it's for GM's and some Chryslers. There are other kits...

Do you know if that one works on these old Fords ? Looking at that puller set above, maybe the tow half collets have a cap under them, that also holds that flange nut under it and use that thick stud in the upper right to back the pulley off.

Or would something like this style work better ? Seems it has two collet halves that fit in the grove on the retainer
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/performance-tool-power-steering-pump-alternator-pulley-puller-w87020/11931901-p?product_channel=local&store=8017&adtype=pla&gPro moCode=PromoUnder100_SPRING&gStoreCode=8017&gQT=


 
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Originally Posted by Quinn Burns
I have an 81 f250 and the power steering pump went out and I've look everywhere for a pump that comes with a pulley. does anyone know where I can find one?
From what I seen posted each one has a different off set based on the motor and options and why they dont come with one.
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yeah that's the problem I tried to remove it and it bent out of shape pretty bad but I cant find a replacement. rock auto does not have any.
I bet you tried to use a 3 jaw puller on the outside of the pully?
The puller you need works off the center hub and pulls on it.
It also has been posted there the HF puller is not machined right, needs a sharp edge to grab the hub, and it is rounded and slips off the hub.
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Originally Posted by FuzzFace2
It also has been posted there the HF puller is not machined right, needs a sharp edge to grab the hub, and it is rounded and slips off the hub.

Yes, that was my experience. I learned the hard way that the HF puller did not work very well. Normally their stuff is fine, but not this model.

The problem is with the two pieces that grip the pulley. They were raw castings, not machined pieces. They fit sloppily inside the collar that is supposed to clamp them together onto the pulley. There was just too much play and they did not lock on very well at all. The actual pulling surface (the edge of the groove) needed to be flat, but it was still slightly tapered, which forced the two pieces apart as pressure was applied.

I ended up returning the HF puller and went with a Lisle 39000 instead. It was only $47 on Amazon, and the difference was night and day. Instead of a loose collar to hold the two pieces together, this had a different arrangement with bolts:

https://www.lislecorp.com/specialty-...-pulley-puller


 
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
You can't press the pulley on and off, it will damage the pump. You cannot sell a new pump with a pulley, the pulley must come off to install the pump. If you get one from the junkyard, you will have to take the brackets with you, they will be stuck on the pump.

All this will go much more smoothly if you get the correct pulley removal tool. Like this.

https://www.amazon.com/WINTOOLS-Remo...35177898&psc=1


Why do none of the OEM's make a bracket with a slot in it to remove the pump AND the pulley? That is the million dollar question.
If you can't press the pulley on and off then how do you move the pulley to your new pump? Obviously use the correct puller to remove the pulley. Then to put it on your new PS pump how is that done without pressing it on? I get that you can't press against the pump itself as damage may occur but what's the trick to get it on the arbor?
 
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Old May 6, 2025 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBlue2
If you can't press the pulley on and off then how do you move the pulley to your new pump? Obviously use the correct puller to remove the pulley. Then to put it on your new PS pump how is that done without pressing it on? I get that you can't press against the pump itself as damage may occur but what's the trick to get it on the arbor?
I believe there are threads in the center of the pump shaft. Basically you screw one of those double ended bolts into those threads and use the piece that fits over the end of the pulley and then use that piece with long threads to screw over the other end of that double ended bolt. Then use the big nut in the kit to force the pulley on. Something like that. Just follow the directions that come with the kit.
 
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Originally Posted by 88n94
I believe there are threads in the center of the pump shaft. Basically you screw one of those double ended bolts into those threads and use the piece that fits over the end of the pulley and then use that piece with long threads to screw over the other end of that double ended bolt. Then use the big nut in the kit to force the pulley on. Something like that. Just follow the directions that come with the kit.
Yep, just like that. This video shows the removal and installation process with the Lisle kit:

 
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