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Old Apr 12, 2025 | 03:41 PM
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Question Deadhead fuel systems

I see this being pushed from time to time,
and today I get an Email from Riff Raff with this weblink.

right now, my 7.3L does not have any leaks, other than boost which will be fixed as soon as the $$ are set aside to do that.

but, adding these dual fuel lines, looks to me, like adding more chances for leaks.

Is there really any Benefit to doing this?
I can't see that a bit of Fuel is actually going to "cool the injectors down"

https://www.riffraffdiesel.com/blog/...-powerstrokes/
 
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Old Apr 12, 2025 | 03:49 PM
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I would say it might make a difference but nothing you will probably notice. And yes, the more fittings/ junctions can potentially add more leak areas.

I have all the extra fuel/ oil stuff and have't had any issues with leaks since installing these items nearly 15 yrs ago now

I will say my Adrenaline has developed a seep from the non-serviceable big cap/ plug and it's only 5 yrs old approx. I have also had a couple oil leak issues due to the rebuilder....ever ay fuel leaks though since removing the factory fuel bowl
 
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Old Apr 12, 2025 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by John in OkieLand
I see this being pushed from time to time,
and today I get an Email from Riff Raff with this weblink.

right now, my 7.3L does not have any leaks, other than boost which will be fixed as soon as the $$ are set aside to do that.

but, adding these dual fuel lines, looks to me, like adding more chances for leaks.

Is there really any Benefit to doing this?
I can't see that a bit of Fuel is actually going to "cool the injectors down"

https://www.riffraffdiesel.com/blog/...-powerstrokes/
This system as well as other regulated returns have been around for 20 years. The engineering and science behind it is well documented here on FTE in many threads and lots of users experiences. An easy summary would be yes there is a reason why it is added to the Super Duty and why Ford originally had a regulated return style on the 1994 to 1997 trucks. Allowing the air in the fuel system to be purged and not go through your injectors is a big plus and why we have seen so many issues with the #1 and #8 injectors. Riffraff Diesel system is one of the cleanest and most minimal on the market and is highly recommended, but there are many options for regulated returns out there just depending on what fits your truck the best.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2025 | 04:59 PM
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I had one of the early revisions of the ITP Regulated Return probably installed in 2004-06 time frame. It served it's purpose well enough, but I grew tired of all the extra hoses and the regulator, and I always had the smell of raw diesel under the hood. Maybe 2 years ago now I took all that off, purchased a 4 Line feed from CNC Fab and returned the FPR back to OEM...with the help of Riff Raff. That has been a good solution for me.

I would have put it back to stock but those parts were in the trash long ago.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2025 | 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dan V
I had one of the early revisions of the ITP Regulated Return probably installed in 2004-06 time frame. It served it's purpose well enough, but I grew tired of all the extra hoses and the regulator, and I always had the smell of raw diesel under the hood. Maybe 2 years ago now I took all that off, purchased a 4 Line feed from CNC Fab and returned the FPR back to OEM...with the help of Riff Raff. That has been a good solution for me.

I would have put it back to stock but those parts were in the trash long ago.
That's interesting...I have an ITP/ driven/ strictly diesel regulated return system from way back too, but i don't think I have any issues of raw fuel smell that i've ever noticed.
 
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REF: getting air in the system when the fuel lines/bowl is opened up.

Last year, when my son installed my Fuel Sump on the tank, and we opened the fuel bowl to investigate the condition there,

we cycled the key 10 times until the fuel pump quit,
I started the engine on the 11th cycle, and it never missed a lick, no air in the Injectors.

the Fuel Bowl and filter were clean as new, the truck has a Wix 24006 10 Micron fuel filter on it, installed by the Fire Department two decades ago.

Mr. Good Wrench must have been a Gorilla, because the WIX brand cap/filter was so tight, we had to use a 24" pipe wrench to get it to turn loose, and unscrew it.....

I replaced that with an OEM fuel cap and filter from the local Ford dealer.
Probably will never look at it again, just change the Wix 24006 once in a Blue Moon.

 
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Old Apr 12, 2025 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by John in OkieLand
I see this being pushed from time to time,
and today I get an Email from Riff Raff with this weblink.

right now, my 7.3L does not have any leaks, other than boost which will be fixed as soon as the $$ are set aside to do that.

but, adding these dual fuel lines, looks to me, like adding more chances for leaks.

Is there really any Benefit to doing this?
I can't see that a bit of Fuel is actually going to "cool the injectors down"

https://www.riffraffdiesel.com/blog/...-powerstrokes/
With a regulated return setup the fuel circulates through the fuel rails inside the heads then out and back to the tank. You can bet it picks up some heat while it's in there and carries it away. Is it some kind of "game changer" mod, no but it can help keep things cooler which almost always is a good thing. That said unless you are truly working the engine on a regular basis or are just sick of the fuel bowl always in the way I wouldn't consider "the juice worth the squeeze".

Edit: Unless you're sourcing and installing the components yourself. Then it's totally worth the effort.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2025 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by John in OkieLand
I see this being pushed from time to time,
and today I get an Email from Riff Raff with this weblink.

right now, my 7.3L does not have any leaks, other than boost which will be fixed as soon as the $$ are set aside to do that.

but, adding these dual fuel lines, looks to me, like adding more chances for leaks.

Is there really any Benefit to doing this?
I can't see that a bit of Fuel is actually going to "cool the injectors down"

https://www.riffraffdiesel.com/blog/...-powerstrokes/
As the rest of the responders have posted, seat of the pants noticeable, no. Can you hear the difference, yes if you listen closely. I ran several tests on my truck pre and post install and the data shows the difference after the install. The injectors do get better flow from a RR.

As far as leaks go, sure, any connection can leak. The RRD system uses JIC type connectors. If you are not aware, these are popular in hydraulic systems typically holding back 3000 psi. Aviation and industrial industries use flared type connections for several systems due to the ruggedness of this connection. Your 7.3 fuel system is running no more than a 100 psi normally, so these are more than sufficient for ensuring a leak free environment.

The best part is this is a tried and true system that have been installed on thousands of trucks. All of the installs I have done have never leaked on install or later. I world think you are safe if you are thinking about an install. I installed five in one day at a tech day we had. It was a blast!
 
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Old Apr 12, 2025 | 08:13 PM
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Thanks all,
I will probably be adding this to the truck when I have the Bellowed Up-pipes installed.

there is a Boost leak on the passenger side, says my son, who has excellent hearing. Me? I was born deaf, and can almost understand male voices, but not Feline voices.

my days of turning a wrench, under the hood, are gone....
as is laying on my back, and trying to reach up above my head....
took a nasty fall a few years ago, and my right shoulder is not normal anymore.

Life at 82 is grand, I am on the top side of the grass.
 
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I am in the process of reaching out to Marty's for a regulated return kit. I originally looked at Riff Raff but after Jim over at Rosewood recommended Marty, I figured I would check out what they have. My stock fuel bowl has been leaking for a couple months and had planned to rebuild it but with swapping injectors and installing KC turbo, it is perfect time to go RR I feel like.
 
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