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Hello, I have a 2000 ford f350 7.3, I got it off of a trade as a no start, it cranks but does not start I hooked my scan tool up to it and it shows a b2141 code saying that there is not identification of the pcm to the pats module. I checked the pcm it is good, should I check the fuses?
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That code can have several different meanings, but a 2000 Super Duty doesn't have PATS, so that isn't one of them. If it was an Excursion, that would be a possibility. Any warning lights illuminated on the dash? What are you using for a scan tool now?
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Last edited by That7.3f350; Mar 19, 2025 at 06:53 PM.
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there were multiple codes but that was the only one saying anything about the pcm. I checked the pcm and the pcm is still good. And the code shows up in the tpms area and cannot read powertrain codes
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How did you check the PCM? Do you happen to have the calibration code from the PCM? Should be something like XLE3, or PMT1 or similar.
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so I work at a dealership and I can tell if a pcm is friend by looking at the board itself and when I checked the board it was not fried so I took the pcm off of my list to look at and I don’t have a calibration code because I got the vehicle off of a trade and have been messing with it myself
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I keep approving this thread, and the posts within it, and they keep getting kicked out again waiting for moderator approval.
In fact, I was sending a message out to fellow staff about it while you guys were posting the exchange quoted above.
I'll go back and reapprove more posts that I already approved previously.
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Let's stop the music for a second. You have no WTS light, that's a clue that needs following up on. Should you check the fuses? YES check the fuses and if you have a blown fuse there's a chance it's the one for the WTS. If it blows again check the fuel heater, unplug it and try again.
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OK, I figured out what happened.
And it is my fault, actually, because back on January 27, I requested a software modification (that thankfully was not implemented with the parameters as I initially thought of, as this incident has shown, but nonetheless was still implemented, albeit more reasonably, as this issue has also shown.)
I won't say what the feature is, but it was designed to curtail spam, not conversations. It has nothing to do with anything that anyone posted.
It is actually gratifying to see that the feature actually works, even when my memory of it doesn't.
Carry on... my apologies for the inconvenience.
And it is my fault, actually, because back on January 27, I requested a software modification (that thankfully was not implemented with the parameters as I initially thought of, as this incident has shown, but nonetheless was still implemented, albeit more reasonably, as this issue has also shown.)
I won't say what the feature is, but it was designed to curtail spam, not conversations. It has nothing to do with anything that anyone posted.
It is actually gratifying to see that the feature actually works, even when my memory of it doesn't.
Carry on... my apologies for the inconvenience.
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so I work at a dealership and I can tell if a pcm is friend by looking at the board itself and when I checked the board it was not fried so I took the pcm off of my list to look at and I don’t have a calibration code because I got the vehicle off of a trade and have been messing with it myself
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so I work at a dealership and I can tell if a pcm is friend by looking at the board itself and when I checked the board it was not fried so I took the pcm off of my list to look at and I don’t have a calibration code because I got the vehicle off of a trade and have been messing with it myself