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Old Feb 23, 2025 | 11:19 AM
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Coolant temp issue

Ive been having overheating symptoms in my 97 250hd with the 5.8. The factory dash gauge is pinned on H. I know these are dummy gauges so I plugged an aftermarket gauge into the OEM port in the intake manifold. This gauge reads about 260. Here's the kicker, when I temp gun my thermostat housing and upper rad hose it reads about 200. What would cause much higher temps in the intake manifold? I've been ignoring the gauge since my tstat housing seems to be about the right temp. Am I a fool for this? The only thing I can think of that would cause this issue is maybe a blocked coolant passage? Anyone had this issue before? New water pump, radiator, and hoses, all flushed bled and pressure tested.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2025 | 12:09 PM
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Is it actually overheating or not? What happens to the gauge when you unplug the wire from the sending unit? Your assumption is wrong about it not being a real gauge. So you have the factory gauge and an aftermarket gauge both telling you it is too hot and you’re ok with that result? New thermostat?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2025 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by My4Fordtrucks
Is it actually overheating or not? What happens to the gauge when you unplug the wire from the sending unit? Your assumption is wrong about it not being a real gauge. So you have the factory gauge and an aftermarket gauge both telling you it is too hot and you’re ok with that result? New thermostat?
Thermostat is new. I guess what I'm trying to determine is if it is in fact overheating. Gauges say yes but temp gun says no. When I unplug the wire from the sender the dash gauge doesn't read.

It seems like I'm overheating in the manifold, but not elsewhere. I'm not boiling off my coolant as far as I can tell. The overflow reservoir isn't filling.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2025 | 02:10 PM
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New doesn’t mean it works. Does the needle ever go to cold? What do you mean it isn’t filling? You should already have coolant in the bottle. Is the radiator full when cold?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2025 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by My4Fordtrucks
New doesn’t mean it works. Does the needle ever go to cold? What do you mean it isn’t filling? You should already have coolant in the bottle. Is the radiator full when cold?
Yeah the needle starts at cold and goes to H as the truck warms up then stays pinned. The tstat is opening my upper rad hose is reading at about 160 with a temp gun once the housing passes 190 and t stat opens.

Radiator is full and the overflow is full to the cold line. I would expect if I was running at 260 coolant temp as the gauge suggests the overflow would be full when the engine is hot.

I don't think I'm having "real" overheating issues based on what my temp gun readings are. 190 at tstat housing and about 210 head temp.

I'm wondering if anyone has insight on why the factory sender location seems to read higher than what the temp gun would suggest. Ive validated the factory gauge reading with two separate aftermarket gauges in the same sending location.
 
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Old Feb 23, 2025 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Nathanwilliam
Yeah the needle starts at cold and goes to H as the truck warms up then stays pinned. The tstat is opening my upper rad hose is reading at about 160 with a temp gun once the housing passes 190 and t stat opens.

Radiator is full and the overflow is full to the cold line. I would expect if I was running at 260 coolant temp as the gauge suggests the overflow would be full when the engine is hot.

I don't think I'm having "real" overheating issues based on what my temp gun readings are. 190 at tstat housing and about 210 head temp.

I'm wondering if anyone has insight on why the factory sender location seems to read higher than what the temp gun would suggest. Ive validated the factory gauge reading with two separate aftermarket gauges in the same sending location.
Its not that your engine is that hot... your sender is either failed or thats an open (possibly short?) behavior

Do you know where the gauge sender is? Whats the wire look like?
 
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Old Feb 23, 2025 | 06:03 PM
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Its not that your engine is that hot... your sender is either failed or thats an open (possibly short?) behavior

Do you know where the gauge sender is? Whats the wire look like?
The sender is in the intake manifold near the distributor. It's one wire to the dash. Ive verified the reading with two aftermarket gauges (including aftermarket senders) plugged into the same port.

Both mechanical gauges read about 260 when plugged into this sending location. My first thought was it was an issue with the cluster, so I verified that the gauge.

Again I'm wondering if anybody can think of a reason coolant would be hotter at the sending location on the intake manifold than at the tstat housing.



 
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Old Feb 23, 2025 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Nathanwilliam
The sender is in the intake manifold near the distributor. It's one wire to the dash. Ive verified the reading with two aftermarket gauges (including aftermarket senders) plugged into the same port.

Both mechanical gauges read about 260 when plugged into this sending location. My first thought was it was an issue with the cluster, so I verified that the gauge.

Again I'm wondering if anybody can think of a reason coolant would be hotter at the sending location on the intake manifold than at the tstat housing.
No, its a bad sender or gauges then
 
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Originally Posted by Nathanwilliam
The sender is in the intake manifold near the distributor. It's one wire to the dash. Ive verified the reading with two aftermarket gauges (including aftermarket senders) plugged into the same port.

Both mechanical gauges read about 260 when plugged into this sending location. My first thought was it was an issue with the cluster, so I verified that the gauge.

Again I'm wondering if anybody can think of a reason coolant would be hotter at the sending location on the intake manifold than at the tstat housing.
The thermostat housing only has "hot" coolant in it when the thermostat opens and lets hot coolant flow through it
The rest of the time the housing will be cooler than the intake or the heads
 
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If it's getting hot enough to blow the radiator cap off (exceed the pressure), chances are your radiator is plugged
Stop leak anyone?
 
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Originally Posted by manicmechanic007
If it's getting hot enough to blow the radiator cap off (exceed the pressure)…
Where was that mentioned?
 
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