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Old Feb 10, 2025 | 08:23 AM
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Steering Wander? Finally Fixed!!!

So the 00 started to go all over the place to the point of being dangerous.

Things replaced in the last year
-upper and lower ball joints (Duralast Gold
-all tie rods (Duralast)
-new track bar (FoMoCo)
-new sway bar bushings and end links
-reman steering box (replaced it under warranty just last week thinking that was the problem but no dice)
-new axel shafts and seals
-new locking hubs

Yesterday I had the truck up in the air to check for play on the suspension components and there's is none. Unhooked the outer tie rods and the wheels turn easily and no binding.
Ball joints have no play
Locked the hubs and spun the tires and they spin easily with no binding, that includes turning the wheels at full lock each way and spinning them with no binding and spun easy.

The only thing that is different is that the steering has a spot where you can turn the wheel maybe a quarter turn easily then get hard to turn (My thoughts is the powersteering or something in the hydraulics of the steering gave ways like a collapsed hose, but wouldn't explain the wandering.

So what do I check next? The only thing in the front suspension that hasn't been replaced is the leaf spring bushings, and they do look bad and will need attention ASAP.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2025 | 08:34 AM
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Did you hit a pothole? Is anything bent? Check if your front wheels now have toe out.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2025 | 09:13 AM
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Did you hit a pothole? Is anything bent? Check if your front wheels now have toe out.

Will have to check it out, tires look straight to my eye, and truck runs true but will have to get some measurements first and depending on the measurements take it to get align again. Tires also don't look worn out funny or anything and they been on there for at least 5k and after an alignment.

 
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Old Feb 10, 2025 | 12:54 PM
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I dont know if you are original owner or if you know the trucks total history But..... Have someone drive it down the highway and you follow it and watch if it is Tracking Correctly @ 60mph or more. (rear wheels are straight behind the front wheels while rolling down the road at 60mph - or, does the truck look like it is rolling down the road Cockeyed?)
 
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Old Feb 10, 2025 | 01:34 PM
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Just thought of this: Is the track bar bracket bolted tight to the frame? How about the steering gear?
 
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Old Feb 10, 2025 | 03:43 PM
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Track bar bar is tight with no play, the steering box was just replaced thinking that might of been the problem but no, turned the steering box by hand and don't feel any tight spots. Also the steering wheel with nothing attached is easy to turn, no binding or anything.

theres no frame damage or anything of that nature for the truck to run cockeyed.

Will dig even deeper over the weekend and report back, hopefully is just something stupid that I missed while I checked the suspension on Sunday
 
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Old Feb 10, 2025 | 09:14 PM
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Sounds like you've done a fairly good job of checking over the steering. Leaf pack, u-bolts, leaf pin, leaf eyes, frame side mounts of the leaves.

This happened suddenly?
 
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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 11:08 AM
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Test #1. With front end raised so both tires off ground, have helper start engine while you watch for slight movement of tires as if steering wheel had been turned. There's a way of adjusting "centering" on steering box.

Test #2. Check caster and camber against specs. Excessively negative caster causes wander.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 05:56 PM
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I guess I missed something and went with assumption: Wanders - is there play in the steering wheel? I was assuming there is but I dont see that in your post.

Have you checked the steering Shaft? from the steer wheel to the steer box. There Can be play at the middle area between the 2 ends, I learned this on a youtube vid, and apparently there can be play where the steer shaft connects to the steer box but have to remove the black plastic cover (which looks pretty easy) the covers that area where the steer shaft connects to the steer box.
 
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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 08:10 PM
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Borgenson makes a permanent fix for loose Steering Shafts.

 
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Old Feb 11, 2025 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by riderboy1961
I guess I missed something and went with assumption: Wanders - is there play in the steering wheel? I was assuming there is but I dont see that in your post.

Have you checked the steering Shaft? from the steer wheel to the steer box. There Can be play at the middle area between the 2 ends, I learned this on a youtube vid, and apparently there can be play where the steer shaft connects to the steer box but have to remove the black plastic cover (which looks pretty easy) the covers that area where the steer shaft connects to the steer box.
No steering slop, tight suspension with zero movement in any of the tie rods or ball joints, as soon as I give the steering wheel any movement the tires move with the steering wheel.

I'll have a chance over the weekend to re check everything.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2025 | 11:45 AM
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Sounds lie you've ruled out everything except those spring eye and shackle bushings. I'd go with pain old rubber for replacements unless she's a pavement princess. Poly doesn't seem to like wet and muddy roads in my experience.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2025 | 02:04 PM
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Power steering took a dump, any chance that could cause the wandering? Also will need to replace the high pressure line as it's leaking from the crimp, maybe a return collapsed hose not allowing the fluid to dump back causing the steering gear to bind?

I don't know, checked everything and the only thing different is the powersteering going bad and HP steering line.
 
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Old Feb 16, 2025 | 09:57 PM
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I have had bad leaf spring bushings and it did not make the truck wander. At least not enough to cause concern. What you will find with worn bushings is a scrapping sound when doing quick turns where the weight is slopping around. Thus the metal center tube of the bushing slides slightly causing a scrape sound. You can shine a little pen light in between the mount and the spring eyelet to see if the rubber is gone or degraded without parts canoning it. If they are worn, then yes, replace, but don't go into the job thinking it will cure it. Just so you don't get let down. If it does, then I'll have to eat my hat.

Also, iT does not need frame damage for the rear and front track to be out of line. A simple, but not completely foolproof test since you replaced the track bar is to measure from the frame to the outer edge of the tire on both sides of the front. Each measurement should be the same, ensuring the front track is in line. It won't help determine if it's out of line with the rear, but it's a start.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2025 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by z31freakify
Power steering took a dump, any chance that could cause the wandering? Also will need to replace the high pressure line as it's leaking from the crimp, maybe a return collapsed hose not allowing the fluid to dump back causing the steering gear to bind?

I don't know, checked everything and the only thing different is the powersteering going bad and HP steering line.
Define "Power steering took a dump". Did the pump go out? Is it only the leak from the high pressure line? Anything else going on?
 
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