Notices
2017 - 2022 Super Duty The 2017-2022 Ford F250, F350, F450, F550 & F600 Super Duty Pickup and Chassis Cab
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

HELP, is this crazy

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 24, 2025 | 08:56 PM
  #16  
scraprat's Avatar
scraprat
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Top Answer: 5
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 8,687
Likes: 4,802
From: Itinerant
Originally Posted by mattymax
What exactly is EFB

 
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2025 | 08:52 AM
  #17  
1olddogtwo's Avatar
1olddogtwo
Cargo Master
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 2,414
Likes: 1,124
Originally Posted by TexasKR450
2020 F 450, King Ranch, NO MODS, 47k miles.

Eating batteries.

Took to a FORD dealer who had it for 3 weeks. FORD said the problem was AGM Batteries! You need to replace with LEAD ACID Batteries.

So you are telling me 1930's technology in a $100k truck.

Who is right and who is wrong?

I am on 3rd battery, all AGMs
Originally Posted by acdii
Passenger batteries fail first, they sit right next to the EGR. What does that tell you? When one battery goes it can take the other with it in time. What exactly is killing the batteries? Over charge, under charge, dead cells? If it was your second set, well, quite possible since the truck is 6 years old now, average life span appears to be 3 years from reports of replaced batteries.
Sounds like OP Isn't following battery rotation, probably hasn't check the owner's manual.
 
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2025 | 09:41 AM
  #18  
scraprat's Avatar
scraprat
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Liked
Top Answer: 5
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 8,687
Likes: 4,802
From: Itinerant
With all the crap running in the background of these trucks now, cannot imagine why they're eating batteries on a low mileage truck.

Even batteries from the past to batteries of today with companies cutting corners to make a profit or more likely just giving the majority of buyers a "cheap" battery at purchase of replacement. Giving the people what they want.

What really stands out to me though 3 WEEKS for a battery issue. How do people go without a vehicle for 3 weeks for battery replacement.
 
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2025 | 10:38 AM
  #19  
speakerfritz's Avatar
speakerfritz
Hotshot
10 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Liked
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 14,301
Likes: 2,197
Originally Posted by scraprat
aside from the above….another thing I like about EFB is the sulfate management …EFB has an area under the plates that serves as a recirculating acid pool…when sulfates drop to the bottom they are recirculated…thus preventing watering down of acid as crystals form.

in regular lead acids batteries the sulfates drop to the bottom and are trapped by the lower portion of the cell plates….sulfate crystals form which water down the acid as crystals form…eventually these crystals will short out individual cells.





 
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2025 | 11:37 AM
  #20  
HorizontalHunter's Avatar
HorizontalHunter
Laughing Gas
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2021
Posts: 917
Likes: 513
Originally Posted by scraprat
With all the crap running in the background of these trucks now, cannot imagine why they're eating batteries on a low mileage truck.

Even batteries from the past to batteries of today with companies cutting corners to make a profit or more likely just giving the majority of buyers a "cheap" battery at purchase of replacement. Giving the people what they want.

What really stands out to me though 3 WEEKS for a battery issue. How do people go without a vehicle for 3 weeks for battery replacement.
The obvious question is: What is the parasitic draw on the truck when it is parked and the modules have gone to sleep?

Bob
 
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2025 | 03:29 PM
  #21  
hondomurph's Avatar
hondomurph
Mountain Pass
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 140
Likes: 22
On my 2019 cclb 6.7 KR , with 52,000 miles on it , I have changed the batteries once about 2 years ago . I usually only drive the truck on weekends and not always every weekend . One day my batteries just did nothing . Totally dead .

The original batteries lasted about 3.5 years and would go in to the power saving mode quite frequently and I would not be able to use the app to start it . I replaced them with the Duracell #65 AGM batteries . I never changed any settings in the charge profile ( in fact I have never even looked at the charge profile) .

Now it almost never goes into the power saving mode . It almost sounds like your truck is not going into the power saving mode . There are tons of small parasitic drains on these trucks .
 
Reply
Old Jan 25, 2025 | 11:37 PM
  #22  
ScottK1's Avatar
ScottK1
Mountain Pass
Liked
Joined: Jan 2021
Posts: 121
Likes: 36
Originally Posted by number9xd
I've been running Walmart Everstart batteries in our vehicles for 20+ years, and get at least 5-6 years out of them.

The video is 5yr old, so YMMV
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7rTcBanpMk

The OEM battery in my Kubota tractor lasted 11yr, and that is a common theme across tractor forums. I think the brand was Deka.

..
OEM in my Deere tractor lasted 12 years.
 
Reply
Old Jan 26, 2025 | 06:32 AM
  #23  
shawnee1's Avatar
shawnee1
Fleet Mechanic
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Jul 2019
Posts: 1,653
Likes: 696
Originally Posted by ScottK1
OEM in my Deere tractor lasted 12 years.
The original battery in my 2004 JD 4310 lasted about 3.5 years (unusual in my experience with JD). Replacement JD battery is still going strong after 17 years. Hope I didn't just jinx myself.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ways Ford is LOSING to the Competition

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 6 Best Deals Available on New Fords & Lincolns Right Now

 Brett Foote
story-2

This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-7

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jan 26, 2025 | 11:09 AM
  #24  
Mike Bartlett's Avatar
Mike Bartlett
Tuned
15 Year Member
Liked
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 499
Likes: 132
From: Pleasanton, CA
I would bet either overcharging or you have a heavy amp draw? Do you drive your truck ~30 min or more often, weekly, or do you drive short trips, ~10-min, on a weekly basis?

Mike
 
Reply
Old Jan 27, 2025 | 07:06 AM
  #25  
WXboy's Avatar
WXboy
Logistics Pro
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 4,411
Likes: 1,016
From: Central KY
My last set of flooded lead acid batteries lasted over 4 years. If these AGMs I just put on here last over 4 years I'll be a happy man.
 
Reply
Old Jan 27, 2025 | 12:13 PM
  #26  
FishOnOne's Avatar
FishOnOne
Lead Driver
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Top Answer: 1
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,970
Likes: 2,665
From: The Great State of Texas
Originally Posted by WXboy
My last set of flooded lead acid batteries lasted over 4 years. If these AGMs I just put on here last over 4 years I'll be a happy man.
So your saying you'll be happy to pay more for AGM batteries and get the same life span as cheaper lead acid batteries? Makes absolutely no sense.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
tmtex
2017 - 2022 Super Duty
31
Sep 9, 2024 11:13 AM
foxxxnick
Slide-in / Truck Campers / Toppers
6
Aug 28, 2023 02:36 AM
Tailgate77478
General Diesel Discussion
2
Dec 3, 2022 06:04 PM
hdman6
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
2
Nov 10, 2007 10:52 AM
wb6anp
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
3
Oct 9, 2007 08:38 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:04 AM.

story-0
10 Ways Ford is LOSING to the Competition

Slideshow: 10 ways Ford is losing to the competition

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-15 09:52:01


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 6 Best Deals Available on New Fords & Lincolns Right Now

Some great targets in today's expensive world.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-15 09:35:19


VIEW MORE
story-2
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-4
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-6
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-9
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE