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Do I need a 250?
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Nothing against Ford besides quality going down somewhat after 2019 but I would just snag something like this while you can:
https://www.bigstardodge.com/invento...oaAnNAEALw_wcB
Dodge Ram quality sucked for me back in the 2000s but has come up since. May even be better than or equivalent to Ford right now.
And another $21k off:
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https://www.bigstardodge.com/invento...oaAnNAEALw_wcB
Dodge Ram quality sucked for me back in the 2000s but has come up since. May even be better than or equivalent to Ford right now.
And another $21k off:
https://www.cars.com/vehicle/1fb58b4e-639f-43e7-964d-c420f39c29e0/?KNC=acqgeosem50&aff=acqgeosem50&gad_source=1&gbra id=0AAAAAD_DZnyI-8oUVwTmCf5aDi5JAvTVa&gclid=Cj0KCQiAhbi8BhDIARIsAJL OlucBpShu3-Enf1YaWB6Zmk5xyRCPigm3i1lGw4dQFQzqQoqEIT1ctR0aAq0J EALw_wcB&id=1fb58b4e-639f-43e7-964d-c420f39c29e0&network=x&store=202243&utm_campaign_i d=20361254537&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm _trusted=TRUE
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From: Gainesville FL
Nothing against Ford besides quality going down somewhat after 2019 but I would just snag something like this while you can:
https://www.bigstardodge.com/invento...oaAnNAEALw_wcB
Dodge Ram quality sucked for me back in the 2000s but has come up since. May even be better than or equivalent to Ford right now.
And another $21k off:
https://www.cars.com/vehicle/1fb58b4...m_trusted=TRUE
https://www.bigstardodge.com/invento...oaAnNAEALw_wcB
Dodge Ram quality sucked for me back in the 2000s but has come up since. May even be better than or equivalent to Ford right now.
And another $21k off:
https://www.cars.com/vehicle/1fb58b4...m_trusted=TRUE
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From: Gainesville FL
Could use some help with payload capacities: Can I get it for each new 150 and 250 without having to contact the dealership, or going there? At some dealer sites I see the door jamb decals, including GVWR, Front GAWR and Rear GAWR, but I don't see payload capacity stated anywhere.
If I understand correctly, to get the payload capacity subtract the truck's curb weight from the GVWR ... but how can I get the truck's weight?
Thanks again ...
If I understand correctly, to get the payload capacity subtract the truck's curb weight from the GVWR ... but how can I get the truck's weight?
Thanks again ...
Last edited by extrap; Jan 21, 2025 at 12:41 AM.
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Get the F150. No sense in buying a truck with a lot more negative aspects (F250) for towing a lightweight trailer twice a year. The F150 will be a much more comfortable, easier driving, and cheaper option for the other 99% of the time.
If I didn't have a 14k trailer, I'd probably be in a Ranger...
If I didn't have a 14k trailer, I'd probably be in a Ranger...
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Could use some help with payload capacities: Can I get it for each new 150 and 250 without having to contact the dealership, or going there? At some dealer sites I see the door jamb decals, including GVWR, Front GAWR and Rear GAWR, but I don't see payload capacity stated anywhere.
If I understand correctly, to get the payload capacity subtract the truck's curb weight from the GVWR ... but how can I get the truck's weight?
Thanks again ...
If I understand correctly, to get the payload capacity subtract the truck's curb weight from the GVWR ... but how can I get the truck's weight?
Thanks again ...
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From: Gainesville FL
How much payload do you think you’ll need? Trim level has quite a bit to do with payload. A decked out F150 Platinum will be about 1300 lbs of payload. I think you pretty much need a picture of the yellow door jam sticker to know exactly what the payload of a particular truck is.
When towing the car hauler loaded with the car, 15% of a 7,000 lb trailer is 1,050 lb, plus me (165) and wife (130) and we're already over 1,300 and that's not counting a spare, jack, cooler, luggage, and anything else.
The load adds up pretty quick, especially if not careful.
Last edited by extrap; Jan 21, 2025 at 12:37 PM.
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Could use some help with payload capacities: Can I get it for each new 150 and 250 without having to contact the dealership, or going there? At some dealer sites I see the door jamb decals, including GVWR, Front GAWR and Rear GAWR, but I don't see payload capacity stated anywhere.
If I understand correctly, to get the payload capacity subtract the truck's curb weight from the GVWR ... but how can I get the truck's weight?
Thanks again ...
If I understand correctly, to get the payload capacity subtract the truck's curb weight from the GVWR ... but how can I get the truck's weight?
Thanks again ...
Dave
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I realize I'm coming several days into this conversation. I've read most of the replies. I have a lot of experience working F150s. hauling cattle, hay, equipment, and feed pretty much—you name it. I've busted more than my share of leaf springs hauling feed in the bed. Drivetrain power is not the issue. 3.5 eco boost and up will more than likely roll any trailer you attach to. The F150 managing that rolling weight is a total different animal. When you have side winds hitting that enclosed trailer. When you are trying to stop that rolling weight once you are moving. That trailer follows the road surface and twists that truck frame every time a wheel falls in a pothole or hits a bump.
The question isn't will a F150 do the job? How well will a F150 do the job in comparison? Another thing to consider is return. You mentioned 5-10 years. A SuperDuty all things equal will hold more value than a F150.
The question isn't will a F150 do the job? How well will a F150 do the job in comparison? Another thing to consider is return. You mentioned 5-10 years. A SuperDuty all things equal will hold more value than a F150.
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Could use some help with payload capacities: Can I get it for each new 150 and 250 without having to contact the dealership, or going there? At some dealer sites I see the door jamb decals, including GVWR, Front GAWR and Rear GAWR, but I don't see payload capacity stated anywhere.
If I understand correctly, to get the payload capacity subtract the truck's curb weight from the GVWR ... but how can I get the truck's weight?
Thanks again ...
If I understand correctly, to get the payload capacity subtract the truck's curb weight from the GVWR ... but how can I get the truck's weight?
Thanks again ...
I haven't shopped F150 since 2018 so I don't know what the payloads are in the various trims anymore. Prior to the refresh, XLT could be anywhere between 1600 and 2000 pounds payload, Lariat between 1400 and 1700 payload, Platinum, King Ranch, Limited, no more than 1500. The more options the smaller the payload.
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From: Gainesville FL
Great, thanks again for all the replies. Another thing I'm wondering: How reasonable is it to tow long distance at max payload?
I haven't seen anything yet about duty cycle.
Before all my recent research and replies received here, I "assumed" my Titan's 9K lb tow rating was plenty for my 7K lb loaded trailer. Embarrassed now, I never gave payload a thought.
Towing at max capacity, or even somewhat overloaded, around town is one thing, but from FL to Michigan at interstate speeds is another ... not that y'all don't already know that.
I haven't seen anything yet about duty cycle.
Before all my recent research and replies received here, I "assumed" my Titan's 9K lb tow rating was plenty for my 7K lb loaded trailer. Embarrassed now, I never gave payload a thought.
Towing at max capacity, or even somewhat overloaded, around town is one thing, but from FL to Michigan at interstate speeds is another ... not that y'all don't already know that.
Last edited by extrap; Jan 21, 2025 at 01:00 PM.