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Old Dec 22, 2024 | 10:01 AM
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1956 Wiper question

The windshield wiper motor makes strange intermittent noises on the second power setting. does anyone have any idea what could be causing this?


next question is do you guys know is that an original or an aftermarkert Wipermotor? If an aftermarket any idea what Brand / Manufacturer?



 
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Your setup looks like a modern evolution of the original part and should be completely interface compatible. So, yes, stock system (just with newer revision / non-oem parts).

As for the noise, I would suggest double checking your wiring as it seems you may have effectively wired at two different speeds for parts of the rotation.
 
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Originally Posted by bmoran4
Your setup looks like a modern evolution of the original part and should be completely interface compatible. So, yes, stock system (just with newer revision / non-oem parts).

As for the noise, I would suggest double checking your wiring as it seems you may have effectively wired at two different speeds for parts of the rotation.
Can you provide the correct wiring diagram?

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Well, for specificity, we need to know what switch you have. Secondly, color codes are all over the place, and so everything must be done positionally.

A few possibilities:

https://m.midfifty.com/inst2/INST-2909_WIPER_SWITCH.pdf (Especially read the boxes at the bottom of the first page

https://www2.dennis-carpenter.com/in...C-17508-RR.pdf

https://www.parts123.com/dc/pdf/b6c-17508-rr.pdf

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...g-problem.html
 
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Old Dec 22, 2024 | 04:02 PM
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to me it looks like i have the original Switch, but i have to look that tomorrow.
 
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This is my Switch. Is it an original? I guess it is.



The wire from "P" on the Switch goes to "P" on the Motor,
The wire from "A" on the Switch goes to "H" on the Motor,
The wire from "F" on the Switch goes to "L" on the Motor,
"B" is Power to the Switch.




 
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It looks to me that your factory switch doesn't match your more modern motor. I would try a switch like these: https://www.dennis-carpenter.com/tru...s-wiper-switch

 
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Old Dec 24, 2024 | 06:51 AM
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That the switch does not match the motor may be possible, but then of course I would be very interested in the electrical explanation! It makes no sense to buy a new switch on suspicion without knowing whether it works better. Does anyone else here have any other ideas?
 
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I think that F and A are for Field and Armature and thus the speed is adjusted with various patterns of passing electricity through the components.

H and L are high and low windings - almost like two motors in one.

There can also be a single motor with a resistor in the switch to get a slower speed.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2024 | 03:44 PM
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When I see these two old ebay offers it almost looks like it were an original motor?

Genuine Ford Truck 12V Wiper Motor F100

12Volt 12K Wiper Motor for Ford Truck 1956
 
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That first link is a much later evolution. Notice the part number as D5TF-17504-AA which dates to 1975.

The second has no branding....

I believe OEM would have been BOSCH, similar (maybe not quite exact) to this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/315668890655
 
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Originally Posted by bmoran4
That first link is a much later evolution. Notice the part number as D5TF-17504-AA which dates to 1975.

The second has no branding....

I believe OEM would have been BOSCH, similar (maybe not quite exact) to this: https://www.ebay.com/itm/315668890655

The two in my links looks exactly like mine, this one in your link has wires coming out of the housing instead of Terminals.

Maybe a PO put a newer Style original Motor in my Truck?
 
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Originally Posted by ingo
The two in my links looks exactly like mine, this one in your link has wires coming out of the housing instead of Terminals.

Maybe a PO put a newer Style original Motor in my Truck?
That is exactly what I said earlier - a more modern evolution:

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Your setup looks like a modern evolution of the original part.
It physically interfaces the same with the wiper linkage and whatnot, but requires the matching switch.
 
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Originally Posted by bmoran4
That is exactly what I said earlier - a more modern evolution:



It physically interfaces the same with the wiper linkage and whatnot, but requires the matching switch.

My problem is that it was 15 years ago, so I can't remember for sure, but I think that this combination of motor and switch worked just fine in the past. So I wonder if it's just wired wrong now?
 
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If you think it is wired wrong and not the incorrect switch, here is previously shared documentation on many of the common possibilities:

 
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