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Old Dec 4, 2024 | 01:55 PM
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Unhappy Replacing the 6.0L engine

At 109K, the 6.0L engine on my 2007 F250 is kaputt, blown head gasket, burned cylinders, possibly other issues not worth investigating.
I'm working with a mechanic to replace the 6.0L with a used engine that is in decent shape.
I'm located in CA and am wondering if I have to replace it with a 6.0L, or am I allowed to install a newer 6.3L and not incure the wrath of the CARB??

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Old Dec 4, 2024 | 06:56 PM
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My understanding is if you get a 6.4 diesel, you'll have to bring all of the emission controls along with it and I think you will still face a hassle getting it smog certified. The 6.4 is junk compared to the 6.0 - why not find a good used 6.0 engine?
 
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Old Dec 4, 2024 | 08:20 PM
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Since I bought the bullet proofing parts, the 6.0 sounds like the best choice.
My mechanic has located a parts truck, so I am in hopes that this will get resolved soon.
Its been "in progress" since the beginning of August
 
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Old Dec 7, 2024 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by diesel_dan
My understanding is if you get a 6.4 diesel, you'll have to bring all of the emission controls along with it and I think you will still face a hassle getting it smog certified. The 6.4 is junk compared to the 6.0 - why not find a good used 6.0 engine?
I agree. I remember there is a guy, I think on this forum, who swapped out his 6.4 engine for an old 6.9 IDI. It was quite interesting seeing that old 6.9 in the 6.4 body.

I still miss the sound and power of my 6.0L.

- Preston (previous handle silverbullet6oh)
 
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Old Dec 11, 2024 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Pa-P
I agree. I remember there is a guy, I think on this forum, who swapped out his 6.4 engine for an old 6.9 IDI. It was quite interesting seeing that old 6.9 in the 6.4 body.

I still miss the sound and power of my 6.0L.

- Preston (previous handle silverbullet6oh)

That looks like a 99-04 era truck so it very could have been a 6.0 he pulled out of it.
 
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Old Dec 11, 2024 | 01:44 PM
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The 6.0 is bad, and the 6.4 is arguably worse. If you're having a shop do the work / paying labor hours, then just replace the 6.0 with another 6.0
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Old Dec 11, 2024 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Antonm23
The 6.0 is bad,
Many of us feel with a few mods, the 6.0 is as good as can be had.
Originally Posted by Antonm23
and the 6.4 is arguably worse.
No first hand experience, but those I know who do much prefer the 6.0[/quote]
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If you're having a shop do the work / paying labor hours, then just replace the 6.0 with another 6.0.
Agree, with an upgraded 6.0

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Old Dec 12, 2024 | 08:54 AM
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Data driven perspective - my 6.0 is the best truck I have owned. Previous two were traded in at over 15 years old and 300k miles (great 6.9L and 7.3L) and I am well on my way to that with the 6.0L. That said, a few nuisance things surprised me, but with the well know reliability work done (and done correctly), nothing but reliability. My upgrade cost was in the $5k range, it was done at around 100k miles.
 
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Mine has been great so far. Completely stock, just turned 160k. That said, I'd have a really tough time sinking 5k into the 6.0 motor & would seriously look into CR Cummins.
 
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Old Dec 12, 2024 | 09:39 AM
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My upgrades got me to around 425 hp., maybe a bit more. Been reliable with that, Money well spent at that time. Without a doubt the cost to do what I did is more now. Extra horsepower is fun, but now that the 6.0L is an old platform. Extra horsepower can certainly be gained other ways (stock 6.7L is probably well above that now - haven't looked recently).
 
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Old Dec 12, 2024 | 10:16 AM
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I know numerous people over 400k in their 6.0L and still going, I recall quite some time ago when Anthony got to around 470k miles and began to have a lifter issue (in 2012/2013) - he did this with his replacement '06 after reaching 400k miles in his first '06 6.0L. It isn't about "competing" for the most miles though - not to most people anyway. It is simply about having a good engine/truck. Meeting the need. Having old trucks and high mileage engines aren't for everyone, regardless of the make/model. For most people, it takes a long time to get to 300k+ miles, lol. National average is around 15k a year. 20 years for 300k miles. 6.0L has only been around for 21-22.
 
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My grandson's 6.0 has 302k on it. It used to be mine. I got it with about 150k. Have a lot of work in it, much of that my inexperience. Have to replace the radiator tomorrow.
It still runs strong but hearing some lifter noise. May go for the shorter setup soon.
 
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Originally Posted by 53jimc
My grandson's 6.0 has 302k on it. It used to be mine. I got it with about 150k. Have a lot of work in it, much of that my inexperience. Have to replace the radiator tomorrow.
It still runs strong but hearing some lifter noise. May go for the shorter setup soon.
What does the lifter noise sound like and how can you differentiate between that and say fuel knock or the 100 other pings and pangs these motors make lol?

Also do you hear the lifter noise best inside the cab or the wheel wells?

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Old Dec 14, 2024 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by bismic
Having old trucks and high mileage engines aren't for everyone, regardless of the make/model.
For true. It's also about self-discipline and fourth grade math. With today's new trucks starting at $50,000 and very easy to spend $100,000, my decision to spend $3500 on replacing the injectors and glow plugs on a hobby business work truck was a no-brainer.

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