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Old Nov 24, 2024 | 10:06 AM
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Steering column differences?

So I am putting a 1979 f350 cab and chassis cab on a 4x4 low boy chassis. So I accidentally threw away the intermediate shaft that came with the chassis. Now I am trying to get the steering hooked up. I found an intermediate shaft on eBay.

so my question is will a lowboy intermediate shaft bolt up to the f350 column or will I have to make something.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2024 | 11:20 AM
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Borgenson shaft


Hey Manny if your talking about steering shaft ,one of the most common used is the Borgenson shaft for your steering Box
 
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Is the F350 column a 2wd cab steering column? If yes, then it round plate that has/had the rag/flex joint set up. And on a late year 77-79 F250 4wd you will have a u joint set up. So yea Borgeson shaft is the quick, fast and easy way to go. Measure X3 cut X1 and extend a bit, slide on the splines on both ends, bolt and go.

The 4wd F250 steering column has a u joint (none replaceable) just down from the fire wall exit of the steering column. And then a slip bell set up on the steering box input shaft. And those parts get worn out also. https://www.borgeson.com/Ford-Truck-1970-14/

Flaming River has all kinds of u-joints if you want or need to build a custom set up.
https://www.flamingriver.com/catalog...its&q=u+joints
 
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Old Nov 24, 2024 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 77&79F250
Is the F350 column a 2wd cab steering column? If yes, then it round plate that has/had the rag/flex joint set up. And on a late year 77-79 F250 4wd you will have a u joint set up. So yea Borgeson shaft is the quick, fast and easy way to go. Measure X3 cut X1 and extend a bit, slide on the splines on both ends, bolt and go.

The 4wd F250 steering column has a u joint (none replaceable) just down from the fire wall exit of the steering column. And then a slip bell set up on the steering box input shaft. And those parts get worn out also. https://www.borgeson.com/Ford-Truck-1970-14/

Flaming River has all kinds of u-joints if you want or need to build a custom set up.
https://www.flamingriver.com/catalog...its&q=u+joints
thanks! This is the 2wd steering shaft. Is the rag joint removable or do I need to make something?
 
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Old Nov 24, 2024 | 10:25 PM
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Well.....kinda no that round plate is welded to the steering column shaft. One way to do it, is to get a OEM splined shaft and that way is to remove that one in it now and get the proper one out of a correct column.

Or yes you can cut it and get a D shaped steering shaft material style locking u joint and adapted it to it. And I would WELD it also. But...I do not support that set up because this is your truck steering we are talking about. Janky short cuts on steering and brakes are a NO GO IMO. I am sure race car and off road truck guys build all sort of custom stuff, so it can be done safely.

Or even better, cut the round plate off and then take the column apart and get the shaft end properly splined. Then buy the proper splined u joint for that end, some D shaped bar stock material and the corresponding D/splined u joint for the other end. And built it the right and safe way. Does this make sense?

This might work if it is long enough. 2wd set up, and F150 4wd set up. https://www.borgeson.com/78-79-Ford-...nd-Bronco.html

This is what I am explaining on what to build. 4wd F250 https://www.borgeson.com/70-79-Full-...ord-Truck.html

I got the one above for my late made 77 4wd F250 and have never had any issues.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2024 | 10:28 PM
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I was think g about the one with the rag joint on one end but the rag joint seems like it’s won’t flex enough. I can fabricate something up.
 
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I have seen those motor mounts you welded up in your other thread. Just like a stack of mini dimes that fell over, very nice for sure. I am sure you can fab up some thing safe and awesome.

It's not like you have a ton of frame and or cab flex needing a large range of flex motion in that round coupler. I just like a solid u joint on each end of the steering shaft.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2024 | 10:32 PM
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I appreciate that. I just don’t want to tear apart the column. The cab has 6k original miles. Everything is so nice and tight.

does it need the slip joint or is that a safety thing?
 
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Well since you are going to probably taking that round plate off, you might as well change the bearing on the end, while you have easy access.

DRB Machine and Fab. https://drbfab.com/collections/ford/...-76-79-broncos
 
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Originally Posted by 77&79F250
Well since you are going to probably taking that round plate off, you might as well change the bearing on the end, while you have easy access.

DRB Machine and Fab. https://drbfab.com/collections/ford/...-76-79-broncos
that’s pretty nice!
 
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Originally Posted by Mannysouza
does it need the slip joint or is that a safety thing?
IMO yes it needs the safety slip joint, that acts as a compression joint to not drive the steering column into your chest in a head on.



 
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