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Old Oct 15, 2024 | 08:16 AM
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steering stabilizer

The stock stabilizer was nearly 5 years old so I put the Bilstein on. It doesn't seem any better than stock. What stabilizers have you had luck with? Truck has Falken Wildpeaks in stock size. I think they are heavier than the stock Goodyear so probably why I notice it more.

On an older SD I tried the Fox ATS adjustable. Didn't like it at all. Had no effect except when on the highest setting and then was too tight to turn.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2024 | 08:31 AM
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That's interesting .When I replaced the stock stabilizer on my '15 with the Bilstein, I noticed a huge difference. Now admittedly, mine was considerably older than yours.
 
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In what way do you feel the Bilstein is not performing like you want?
 
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Old Oct 15, 2024 | 09:39 AM
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In what way do you feel the Bilstein is not performing like you want?
Every bump or imperfection I hit in the road moves the steering wheel.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2024 | 09:45 AM
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Assume you are talking about your 2020. I'll say, I do notice a bit more bump steer in my '23 than I had in my '15. I decreased my front tire pressure from 80psi to 65psi on my '23 which seemed to help some. On my '15, I swapped the caster bushings to increase caster, but I did that to help with death wobble.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2024 | 12:06 PM
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I installed the single Fox stabilizer [985-24-001] on my '17 F-250 7 years ago and its been flawless so far.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2024 | 12:35 PM
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The stabilizer will not affect things much. I too took my stock piece off at 85k miles or so and installed the Bilstein. No change. I didn't really expect any. I grew up around HD trucks and Jeeps and most of the time you could take the stabilizer totally off and drive and not miss it. It's really there for ROUGH conditions just to take out some of the jarring. Not going to change much of anything on pavement.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2024 | 02:46 PM
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It's technically a steering Damper, not a stabilizer. It is there to dampen road shock on the steering gear. A side effect is killing DW before it starts and to take up some of the slack of worn parts. I noticed on the 2012 that it (the Bilstien) would push the steering a bit to the right ( I think*) when it was new from the amount of gas in the shock. It replaced a new OEM one, and it killed DW. Once I rebuilt the front end, it was no longer needed and made zero difference to the steering. Worn parts are more the issue here than the damper.



* can't remember which side is fixed to the frame, the push was opposite it.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2024 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by acdii
It's technically a steering Damper, not a stabilizer. It is there to dampen road shock on the steering gear. A side effect is killing DW before it starts and to take up some of the slack of worn parts. I noticed on the 2012 that it (the Bilstien) would push the steering a bit to the right ( I think*) when it was new from the amount of gas in the shock. It replaced a new OEM one, and it killed DW. Once I rebuilt the front end, it was no longer needed and made zero difference to the steering. Worn parts are more the issue here than the damper.



* can't remember which side is fixed to the frame, the push was opposite it.
Truck has 30k on it so I doubt its wore out. I am thinking the heavy AT tires just made it even more noticeable
 
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Old Oct 15, 2024 | 08:00 PM
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One of the YouTube mechanics maybe FordBossMe had a video with commentary on how the factory dampers did not last at all.
 
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I've said this in every thread about steering stabilizers. The factory one is not in the most ideal position. It needs to be on the same plane as the steering itself. It's why the older Super Duties and any serious off road vehicle has them mounted on the tie rod and axle housing. The Fox ATS is terrible, if you tighten it enough it proves my point because as the suspension travels up and down it will move your steering wheel left and right. Ditch the factory location and install a single or dual setup like I mentioned.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2024 | 10:18 PM
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I felt loosness driving off the lot with my 2019 250 gas. Having read all the DW posts I didnt waste any time replacing my stabilizer with a King unit. When I got the stock unit out at 5,000 miles it had 1/2" of free play right at dead center. Ford was dancing around... coming out with new warrantee replacements, and at the time people were still having problems.
I have 65,000 on it now. No unexpected steering feedback.
20" stock wheels with 295/65/20 Toyo AT3s and snow plow prep.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2024 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by cpobst
I've said this in every thread about steering stabilizers. The factory one is not in the most ideal position. It needs to be on the same plane as the steering itself. It's why the older Super Duties and any serious off road vehicle has them mounted on the tie rod and axle housing. The Fox ATS is terrible, if you tighten it enough it proves my point because as the suspension travels up and down it will move your steering wheel left and right. Ditch the factory location and install a single or dual setup like I mentioned.
Thoughts on why they would have changed it?
 
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Old Oct 16, 2024 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom S
Thoughts on why they would have changed it?
Guessing there was a cost savings involved.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2024 | 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by johndeerefarmer
The stock stabilizer was nearly 5 years old so I put the Bilstein on. It doesn't seem any better than stock. What stabilizers have you had luck with? Truck has Falken Wildpeaks in stock size. I think they are heavier than the stock Goodyear so probably why I notice it more.

On an older SD I tried the Fox ATS adjustable. Didn't like it at all. Had no effect except when on the highest setting and then was too tight to turn.

the stock item is a damper to prevent bump steer


steering stabilizers (dual or single) are a different animal and mount in a different place.


 
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