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Old Oct 20, 2024 | 05:42 PM
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I found the ride with the factory shocks to be harsh. The have poor rebound damping and the truck would bounce around after hitting a bump in the road. The Bilsteins stop nearly all of this bad behavior. I’m on the fourth set of them on my Excursion since I bought it in 2008 (they seem to last about 40,000 miles). I highly recommend them.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2024 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by shailey
I found the ride with the factory shocks to be harsh. The have poor rebound damping and the truck would bounce around after hitting a bump in the road. The Bilsteins stop nearly all of this bad behavior. I’m on the fourth set of them on my Excursion since I bought it in 2008 (they seem to last about 40,000 miles). I highly recommend them.
Which ones... the 4600's or the 5100's?

I've got a set of 4600's on my 2009 F250... they have about 160000mi on them...
 
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Old Oct 20, 2024 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by shailey
I found the ride with the factory shocks to be harsh. The have poor rebound damping and the truck would bounce around after hitting a bump in the road. The Bilsteins stop nearly all of this bad behavior. I’m on the fourth set of them on my Excursion since I bought it in 2008 (they seem to last about 40,000 miles). I highly recommend them.
This is the General Consensus on OEM and Bilstien.

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Which ones... the 4600's or the 5100's?

I've got a set of 4600's on my 2009 F250... they have about 160000mi on them...
Both are the same shock internally, The 5100 are for stock to lifted trucks, the 4600 are stock ride only.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2024 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PatrickStapler
Affirmative! I can say after I replaced my steering stabilizer, shocks, caster+ bushings, the rest of the entire steering parts, and tires, I still occasionally got DW on my ‘15. The ONLY thing that eradicated DW was replacing the passenger lower ball joint and the steering link bar that connects it to the driver side frame.
I had some DW on my 96 F250 with the transplanted D60 and the problem ended up being wheel/tire balance.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2024 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by acdii
This is the General Consensus on OEM and Bilstien.



Both are the same shock internally, The 5100 are for stock to lifted trucks, the 4600 are stock ride only.
While the two are of similar design, the 5100's are valved a little stiffer to accommodate lifted and/or larger tires as you would see in off-road applications.

https://www.shocksurplus.com/blogs/s...odEMElOyTKnSe_
 
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Old Oct 21, 2024 | 11:19 AM
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4600s on the Excursion. 5100s on the F350. I didn't like the blue and yellow of teh 4600s for eth F350. The 5100's are silverish with black rubber bellows
 
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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by PatrickStapler
While the two are of similar design, the 5100's are valved a little stiffer to accommodate lifted and/or larger tires as you would see in off-road applications.
That's my understanding of them as well.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by shailey
4600s on the Excursion. 5100s on the F350. I didn't like the blue and yellow of teh 4600s for eth F350. The 5100's are silverish with black rubber bellows
Just curious, as the X has a very heavy backend.

The 4600's on my F250 did not help the problem I had, which was a horribly mushy rear suspension. I found out after I bought it I should have got one with the camper package... like my 1999 F250.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2024 | 08:20 AM
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Yep, the rear end on the Excursion is both heavy and lightly sprung. In addition to the Bilsteins, I added Michelin tires, a Hellwig sway bar, and Roadmaster Active Suspension. The combination of these four changes tamed the bouncy beast's wallowing rear end. I highly recommend the Roadmasters and I would add them to my F350 if I didn't have the factory overload springs installed
 
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Old Oct 23, 2024 | 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by johndeerefarmer
Truck has 30k on it so I doubt its wore out. I am thinking the heavy AT tires just made it even more noticeable
My '22 SD had only 16k on it when the drag link was leaking grease from one end and had slop in it. Ford replaced it under warranty and performed alignment. Since then, I turn the wheel to 11:00 to go straight.

Heavy 12-ply 33x12.5x20 mudders at 75psi don't help matters and dribble like basketballs on washboard roads. I'll go to a lighter tire next time around though still rated at 129 load index. (295/65R20). Perhaps I'll lower the air pressure to improve the ride?

 
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Old Oct 23, 2024 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BDWSD22
My '22 SD had only 16k on it when the drag link was leaking grease from one end and had slop in it. Ford replaced it under warranty and performed alignment. Since then, I turn the wheel to 11:00 to go straight.

Heavy 12-ply 33x12.5x20 mudders at 75psi don't help matters and dribble like basketballs on washboard roads. I'll go to a lighter tire next time around though still rated at 129 load index. (295/65R20). Perhaps I'll lower the air pressure to improve the ride?
Easy fix, loosen the clamps on the steering link to tie rod and turn the sleeve 1/4 turn opposite direction of where the wheel is. so if you have to move the wheel right to go straight, turn it in the direction that pulls the two pieces together. Test drive and adjust until it is to your liking. No need to take it in and waist half a day for an alignment.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2024 | 12:59 PM
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When we travel from Texas to CO with the truck we are usually towing a trailer of some kind. This trip we were not. Not having any load made a difference on handling as well. On the way back I aired all tires down to 60 psi. It rode and handled better.

Kinda funny: If I drive the F150 or Escape I get used to how they steer. Very tight and precise steering. We then get in the truck and take a trip to Colorado. It takes me an hour to get used to the loose sloppy steering on the SD. I tend to oversteer it until I get used to it.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2024 | 08:44 PM
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I bought a 2019 F250 with the snow plow prep package new is Feb 2020. That suspension was very harsh. At about 6k miles, I swapped over to Skyjacker N95 shocks and dual steering stabilizer (and 35x12.50R18 BFG KO2s and a one inch level kit). The ride did improve quite a bit but it was still a little rough. Before I swapped the shocks and all, I got death-wobble a couple times. After the swap, no more death-wobble.




 
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Old Oct 25, 2024 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SlikWillie
I bought a 2019 F250 with the snow plow prep package new is Feb 2020. That suspension was very harsh. At about 6k miles, I swapped over to Skyjacker N95 shocks and dual steering stabilizer (and 35x12.50R18 BFG KO2s and a one inch level kit). The ride did improve quite a bit but it was still a little rough. Before I swapped the shocks and all, I got death-wobble a couple times. After the swap, no more death-wobble.


So, in your opinion, what fixed the death wobble? The dual dampers, or the shocks... or both?
 
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Old Oct 25, 2024 | 10:58 AM
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good heavens you shouldnt need a qaudruple duper stabilizer kit
 
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