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Old Oct 9, 2024 | 11:15 PM
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3.5 Ecoboost

My 2011 3.5 Ecoboost is on a mission to make my life miserable.
I had the drivers side exhaust manifold replaced earlier this year, now the other side is leaking, cam phasers sound like an idling 90s Dodge Cummins diesel on startup.
Estimates on the cam phasers/ timing chain are around $6500 CAD and the exhaust manifold is another $2000 (mostly labour, as I recall from the other one). For $8500 I think I’d be further ahead to find a replacement motor.

What years of motor will be a direct drop in?

i guess that I should add that I’ve already bought a 2021 F150, I just want to get this one fixed to sell.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2024 | 04:09 AM
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Perhaps consider selling the vehicle complete as is where it sits currently. Make certain any potential buyers are aware of your concerns about its condition and potential for repairs at some point.

Good luck with all this!
 
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Old Oct 10, 2024 | 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 2011Blue
My 2011 3.5 Ecoboost is on a mission to make my life miserable.
I had the drivers side exhaust manifold replaced earlier this year, now the other side is leaking, cam phasers sound like an idling 90s Dodge Cummins diesel on startup.
Estimates on the cam phasers/ timing chain are around $6500 CAD and the exhaust manifold is another $2000 (mostly labour, as I recall from the other one). For $8500 I think I’d be further ahead to find a replacement motor.

What years of motor will be a direct drop in?

i guess that I should add that I’ve already bought a 2021 F150, I just want to get this one fixed to sell.
Not sure that you'd come out ahead on the sale if you fix it as if you were going to keep it. Judging by the way you spelled "labour", may I assume that you're in Canada? Had you considered keeping it for the winter months?
 
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Old Oct 10, 2024 | 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by JWA
Perhaps consider selling the vehicle complete as is where it sits currently. Make certain any potential buyers are aware of your concerns about its condition and potential for repairs at some point.

Good luck with all this!
That’s probably what will happen.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2024 | 08:14 AM
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Not sure that you'd come out ahead on the sale if you fix it as if you were going to keep it. Judging by the way you spelled "labour", may I assume that you're in Canada? Had you considered keeping it for the winter months?
Yes, i am lucky enough to be Canadian!
I will probably just sell it as a ‘mechanic special’ to someone interested in doing the work.
 
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Old Oct 10, 2024 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 2011Blue
Yes, i am lucky enough to be Canadian!
I will probably just sell it as a ‘mechanic special’ to someone interested in doing the work.
That sounds like a great call. I'm still loving my 2011 but at the first sign of severe trouble, I'll bail out quickly. So far so good and hopefully that lasts.
 
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Old Oct 11, 2024 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 2011Blue
My 2011 3.5 Ecoboost is on a mission to make my life miserable.
I had the drivers side exhaust manifold replaced earlier this year, now the other side is leaking, cam phasers sound like an idling 90s Dodge Cummins diesel on startup.
Estimates on the cam phasers/ timing chain are around $6500 CAD and the exhaust manifold is another $2000 (mostly labour, as I recall from the other one). For $8500 I think I’d be further ahead to find a replacement motor.

What years of motor will be a direct drop in?

i guess that I should add that I’ve already bought a 2021 F150, I just want to get this one fixed to sell.
This Canadian Lady changed her EcoBoost Manifolds. What's your excuse 🤷‍♀️

 
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Old Oct 11, 2024 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by explorerdriver
This Canadian Lady changed her EcoBoost Manifolds. What's your excuse 🤷‍♀️

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sJb...nnel=MegAugust
I took the approximate value of the truck minus the cost of repairs and sold it within the 24 hours.

I apprenticed in auto mechanics 30+ years ago, doing this kind of ****, and have spent enough time wrenching cars, trucks, atvs, sleds and bikes to not see a value in doing this now.

Ability does not equate to value. I’ve replaced the truck and have zero regrets.

 
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Old Oct 11, 2024 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 2011Blue
I took the approximate value of the truck minus the cost of repairs and sold it within the 24 hours.

I apprenticed in auto mechanics 30+ years ago, doing this kind of ****, and have spent enough time wrenching cars, trucks, atvs, sleds and bikes to not see a value in doing this now.

Ability does not equate to value. I’ve replaced the truck and have zero regrets.
As a side note; I advertised the truck with full disclosure as to all conditions and concerns. The buyer was fully aware of the condition.
 
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Originally Posted by 2011Blue
I took the approximate value of the truck minus the cost of repairs and sold it within the 24 hours.

I apprenticed in auto mechanics 30+ years ago, doing this kind of ****, and have spent enough time wrenching cars, trucks, atvs, sleds and bikes to not see a value in doing this now.

Ability does not equate to value. I’ve replaced the truck and have zero regrets.
I agree, was being a bit facetious.

Sometimes you have to know when to hold em, know when to foldem.

I think I would draw the line with a repair like that. Let it be someone else's problem

Thats why I got a 6.2L, as a daily driver it could last forever, that is what a Ford tech told me when I got it inspected. Gas mileage could be better, if I drive like grandpa maybe 16.5avg cityhwy. I'm sure the eco would do better, but everything is a tradeoff. If the eco is driven hard I can't see it as a gas saver, it may even consume more than the V8.

Eco boost work is very common according to them, if they depended on the 6.2L for money they would be in trouble.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2024 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 2011Blue
As a side note; I advertised the truck with full disclosure as to all conditions and concerns. The buyer was fully aware of the condition.
Yup, some people are looking for a project, that is fine too. If they do the work they have another 100-150K miles out of it.

The timing chain likes to stretch too...that is not a fun job.
 
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Old Oct 12, 2024 | 09:08 AM
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I agree, was being a bit facetious.

Sometimes you have to know when to hold em, know when to foldem.

I think I would draw the line with a repair like that. Let it be someone else's problem

Thats why I got a 6.2L, as a daily driver it could last forever, that is what a Ford tech told me when I got it inspected. Gas mileage could be better, if I drive like grandpa maybe 16.5avg cityhwy. I'm sure the eco would do better, but everything is a tradeoff. If the eco is driven hard I can't see it as a gas saver, it may even consume more than the V8.

Eco boost work is very common according to them, if they depended on the 6.2L for money they would be in trouble.
I looked around at Toyotas, GMs, and Fords, and ended up buying a 2021 3.5 eco boost. I expect it to be a faithful vehicle for the next 10 years or so.

I was able to sell my 911 turbo with no regrets … and that was my dream car. They’re all just easily replaceable piles of metal.

I would have bought a lightning, unfortunately there were a couple of reasons that it didn’t make sense at this time. ‘Range anxiety’ did not really factor in to the decision.

 
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Originally Posted by 2011Blue
I looked around at Toyotas, GMs, and Fords, and ended up buying a 2021 3.5 eco boost. I expect it to be a faithful vehicle for the next 10 years or so.

I was able to sell my 911 turbo with no regrets … and that was my dream car. They’re all just easily replaceable piles of metal.

I would have bought a lightning, unfortunately there were a couple of reasons that it didn’t make sense at this time. ‘Range anxiety’ did not really factor in to the decision.
I think by 21 they are very reliable. The generation before had some serious phasor issues.

But buying an eco used with high mileage is a risk. Not every seller is honest like you. A higher mileage v8 is a much safer bet. Mine is pushing 200K all original,
 
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