TTB block lift?
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TTB block lift?
If I were to slip lets say a 1.5" block on both sides of the coil spring to get a 3" lift out front would i run into any issues? i know about using the drop brackets and all, i'm just wondering about the springs themselves, would i run into binding issues or anything like that?
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You can't put blocks under there. You could by special coil spacers, but they are about as much as buying new coil springs, so you're better off buying 1.5"-2" lift springs. You can install new camber bushings to correct the camber alignment but, anything higher than 2" lift you'll need drop brackets for the hindge points and longer radius arms (unless u get the drop brackets for the radius arms instead of the longer radius arms).
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I know about all the drop bracketry, i was only wondering about the springs.
Also, why CAN'T I put blocks under there? I looked at it and it'll be no problem to throw blocks in. If I pull the lower spring retainer bolt and slide a block in there and use a longer bolt to retain everything it oughta work, the only creative stuff will be the block up top, BUT i have an extra set of spring perches so I could cut the spring cup off the extra ones and put it below the block to hold the springs.
My only question was if I would run into spring bind or something along those lines, i have everything else sorted out.
82F100- thanks for the pointer. my truck actually is 2wd right now, i'm in the process of converting to 4x so i have a whole 2x front end at my disposal
Justin
Also, why CAN'T I put blocks under there? I looked at it and it'll be no problem to throw blocks in. If I pull the lower spring retainer bolt and slide a block in there and use a longer bolt to retain everything it oughta work, the only creative stuff will be the block up top, BUT i have an extra set of spring perches so I could cut the spring cup off the extra ones and put it below the block to hold the springs.
My only question was if I would run into spring bind or something along those lines, i have everything else sorted out.
82F100- thanks for the pointer. my truck actually is 2wd right now, i'm in the process of converting to 4x so i have a whole 2x front end at my disposal
Justin
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Well, you see, your $.02 is some of the money i don't have to buy a lift kit 
. I may pop for a set of leveling springs and then use 4x2 spring cups then fab up the rest, but it does all come down to the mighty dollar. I'm looking at a shackle flip out back and something up front. . .
Justin
. I may pop for a set of leveling springs and then use 4x2 spring cups then fab up the rest, but it does all come down to the mighty dollar. I'm looking at a shackle flip out back and something up front. . . Justin
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A real cheap way then would be to remove the coil bucktes and mount them 1" or so lower and use the 2wd coil pads for 2" of free lift.
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I considered dropping the buckets but decided against it, i just didn't like the idea. 'd rather stick some blocks under the springs with longer bolts and fab up some drop brackets. We'll see what happns in the end.
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Originally posted by hoxiii
I know about all the drop bracketry, i was only wondering about the springs.
Also, why CAN'T I put blocks under there? I looked at it and it'll be no problem to throw blocks in. If I pull the lower spring retainer bolt and slide a block in there and use a longer bolt to retain everything it oughta work, the only creative stuff will be the block up top, BUT i have an extra set of spring perches so I could cut the spring cup off the extra ones and put it below the block to hold the springs.
My only question was if I would run into spring bind or something along those lines, i have everything else sorted out.
82F100- thanks for the pointer. my truck actually is 2wd right now, i'm in the process of converting to 4x so i have a whole 2x front end at my disposal
Justin
I know about all the drop bracketry, i was only wondering about the springs.
Also, why CAN'T I put blocks under there? I looked at it and it'll be no problem to throw blocks in. If I pull the lower spring retainer bolt and slide a block in there and use a longer bolt to retain everything it oughta work, the only creative stuff will be the block up top, BUT i have an extra set of spring perches so I could cut the spring cup off the extra ones and put it below the block to hold the springs.
My only question was if I would run into spring bind or something along those lines, i have everything else sorted out.
82F100- thanks for the pointer. my truck actually is 2wd right now, i'm in the process of converting to 4x so i have a whole 2x front end at my disposal
Justin
that is the stupidest thing i have ever read, hands down. blocks under coil springs???? c'mon man, this isn't a ricer forum!
if cash is a problem then i suggest you wait. I agree, do it right the first time. I would rather wait than have my truck spread all over the highway when your front blocks come out.
-jason-
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Coil spring spacers go on the top of the coil spring, against the upper coil bucket, whereas a coil spring block would go under the coil spring-a recipe for disaster. Just as bad as front lift blocks on a front leaf spring truck.
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Originally posted by hoxiii
Why's it so stupid? Look up coil spring spacers in a search engine, they make sense and are a good bang for your buck.
Justin
Why's it so stupid? Look up coil spring spacers in a search engine, they make sense and are a good bang for your buck.
Justin
listen...it is just my .02 worth. If you think you can pull it off, go for it. if you kill someone though after the spacers come out you can be charged with involuntary vehicular man-slaughter.
I would not go the cheap way with the way a vehicle drives. and I don't really need to do a search as I have seen plenty of them just this past week not to mention the last few years.
good luck with it
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I don't see how the bocks are going to "slip out" as you say. On a stock TTB front end there is a stud that comes up from the axle that has about a 1.5" cast iron block with a holedrilled through the middle dropped over it. on top of this the spring sits, then the spring retainer plate goes over the stud, and the nut gets tightened down to hold the spring in place. All i'm talking about doing is replacing the 1.5" block with a 3" steel block and putting longer studs in to allow full engagement of the nut on the stud.
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