Notices
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1987 - 1996 Ford F-150, F-250, F-350 and larger pickups - including the 1997 heavy-duty F250/F350+ trucks

Possible bad head gasket

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 5, 2024 | 01:07 PM
  #16  
'89F2urd's Avatar
'89F2urd
Lead Driver
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 5,808
Likes: 457
Originally Posted by Anonymous12
No there is no oil in the coolant.
and you dont add coolant?
 
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2024 | 01:10 PM
  #17  
Anonymous12's Avatar
Anonymous12
Thread Starter
|
Laughing Gas
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2023
Posts: 1,172
Likes: 114
Originally Posted by '89F2urd
and you dont add coolant?
Very rarely. I haven’t filled it since I serviced the cooling system in June or July. It’s just now at the point I need to fill it up a bit it’s probably an inch and a half below the neck. But I chalked that up as normal, especially cause the stupid radiator cap doesn’t draw more coolant in after it cools off.
 
Reply
Old Oct 5, 2024 | 01:49 PM
  #18  
seschenburg's Avatar
seschenburg
Tuned
10 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 482
Likes: 94
I see nothing wrong with that spark plug. You can find charts on the Internet with pictures of good, bad, and ugly plugs.

Get one of those cheap USB bore scope cameras for your phone or a laptop. Remove spark plugs. Pressurize the cooling system (autoparts stores will rent/loan the kit). 15-20 PSI should be enough. You don't want to exceed rated pressure too much. I think it's 13PSI for the typical cooling system in these trucks. Look in each cylinder for leakage.

Generally speaking you won't have leakage into the cylinder when it's running. Cylinder pressure will see to that. What you'll have is over-pressurization in the cooling system and the overflow bottle will fill up. One of those combustion-products-in-the-coolant tester kits can also help here, but the one time I used one it was inconclusive, so look for other clues. (My overflow was filling up. No smoke and no other clues were solid. Replaced the head gaskets and problem resolved.)

You can have leakage into/from the oil while it's running though. Milky oil or a sheen in the coolant can identify this happening. You might even be able to detect some dye in the oil if your light is strong enough and the leak is great enough.

Adding dye to the coolant can certainly help find external leaks. Giving the engine a good wash first is highly recommended. Two cans of engine degreaser, the foam type, will get it clean enough to find new leaks.

And, lastly, buying gas from a station with old tanks, or one that doesn't sell a lot of gas, or water in your own tanks, can also bring moisture into your fuel system. IOW, you may be looking at the wrong end of the chain for the weak link.
 
Reply
Old Oct 9, 2024 | 08:11 PM
  #19  
Anonymous12's Avatar
Anonymous12
Thread Starter
|
Laughing Gas
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jan 2023
Posts: 1,172
Likes: 114
I did some testing. I pressure tested the cooling system and stuck a camera down the cylinder. I did see coolant and it did slowly lose pressure. So I then did a leak down test on that cylinder (it was TDC) it held 84/100 psi it was cold. So I believe it to be the lower intake manifold having a crack or something
 
Reply
Old Oct 9, 2024 | 10:06 PM
  #20  
97SuperDuty's Avatar
97SuperDuty
Tuned
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 275
Likes: 23
Originally Posted by '89F2urd
As someone who has owned a bunch of older stuff and been broke through my 20s, another truck or vehicle absolutely does help.
That used to work on my wife when I had 3 or 4 cars and trucks. Now she won't fall for it...LOL
 
Reply
Old Oct 9, 2024 | 10:11 PM
  #21  
97SuperDuty's Avatar
97SuperDuty
Tuned
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 275
Likes: 23
Originally Posted by '89F2urd
As someone who has owned a bunch of older stuff and been broke through my 20s, another truck or vehicle absolutely does help.
That used to work on my wife when I had 3 or 4 cars and trucks. Now she won't fall for it...LOL

My personal take, if you're gonna do it, do it right. And I think that is what the OP is saying. He wants to do it right, but wants to do it when he can better afford to do it right. That piston looks bad to me, if it was clean and there was a head gasket leak it might be safe to try and put a new head gasket on it, but I had a head off a Range Rover and I knew the head gasket was blown and I was getting coolant in the oil...Finally when it did give up the ghost, all the pistons still looked clean, so that doesn't give me the warm fuzzies on the pic posted. As mentioned, consider the short/long block and/or how long you expect to keep it. I wish I had kept that Range Rover now, I could have just dropped an engine in. All hindsight now...the plugs don't look too bad, but you will want to replace them and make sure wires are good. Then you're probably gonna want to replace the belts, and don't forget the water pump while you have access...I think we all know this game all too well...

Alan
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
gameover1974
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
2
Dec 6, 2015 09:35 PM
markal
Small Block V8 (221, 260, 289, 5.0/302, 5.8/351W)
4
Jun 5, 2006 01:01 PM
GrayRanger4x4
2.6, 2.8, 2.9, 4.0 & SOHC 4.0 V6
5
Apr 5, 2006 12:21 PM
Narwhal
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
15
Feb 18, 2006 04:25 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:17 PM.

story-0
5 BEST / 5 WORST Ford Daily Drivers of the 21st Century

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford daily drivers of the 21st century.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-23 08:55:01


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Fords to Drive Before You Die

Slideshow: 10 Fords to drive before you die.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-22 14:29:44


VIEW MORE
story-2
3 Best / Worst Features Of The 2025+ Ford Expedition

The latest Expedition is quite popular, but it certainly isn't perfect.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-22 14:23:19


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Ways Ford is LOSING to the Competition

Slideshow: 10 ways Ford is losing to the competition

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-15 09:52:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 6 Best Deals Available on New Fords & Lincolns Right Now

Some great targets in today's expensive world.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-15 09:35:19


VIEW MORE
story-5
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-7
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-9
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE