Notices
1961 - 1966 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Slick Sixties Ford Truck

Brake Question

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 20, 2024 | 12:40 PM
  #1  
Copeyboy's Avatar
Copeyboy
Thread Starter
|
Cross-Country
Joined: Sep 2024
Posts: 55
Likes: 14
Brake Question

Hey all,
I recently replaced the MC and powerbooster in my 1964 F100 and have a question about the proportioning valve. The truck was converted to front disc brakes by a previous owner and they installed the dual reservoir MC and the booster. The old master cylinder had the larger port in the reservoir going to the rear drums. The new MC has this larger port going to the front disc brakes. Now, I've found that the powerbooster push rod is very finicky with adjustments. If I have any preload at all on the master cylinder, the front brakes drag and then lock up when they get hot. I've become pretty adept at jumping out on the side of the road, quickly removing the master cylinder, and adjusting the push rod in when this happens. The problem is, my brakes are a bit soft when I back the push rod off. I've completely bench bled the master cylinder and bled about a full bottle's worth of brake fluid through all four brakes on the truck. I know there is no air in the lines, yet the brakes are still very touchy with the smallest bit of preload on the master cylinder. I'm wondering if the proportioning valve needs to be adjusted to send more pressure to the rear brakes or if I need to maybe switch the front and rear brake lines at the valve. Any thoughts? I appreciate any and all help anyone is able to give me with this. Thanks.
 
Reply
Old Sep 20, 2024 | 01:39 PM
  #2  
7BercMerc's Avatar
7BercMerc
More Turbo
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2021
Posts: 643
Likes: 210
From: Grants Pass, Oregon
I have had this same issue on my 60 Mercury wagon. I converted to discs about 20 years ago. I have replaced the MC twice and each time it is a PITA to adjust and get it just right so it doesn't lock up. On my 64 F250 I used the Wilwood 1" bore compact MC and prop valve kit. No booster. Ive never had the issue with it. I honestly think it has to do with the quality of the Wilwood vs the more generic type. Did I just get lucky and adjust it right first time? Maybe. The next time the wagon needs a MC, I will be going with the Wilwood. just my $.02.


 
Reply
Old Sep 21, 2024 | 11:29 AM
  #3  
BobbyFord's Avatar
BobbyFord
Logistics Pro
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,924
Likes: 272
Originally Posted by Copeyboy
Hey all,
I recently replaced the MC and powerbooster in my 1964 F100 and have a question about the proportioning valve. The truck was converted to front disc brakes by a previous owner and they installed the dual reservoir MC and the booster. The old master cylinder had the larger port in the reservoir going to the rear drums. The new MC has this larger port going to the front disc brakes. Now, I've found that the powerbooster push rod is very finicky with adjustments. If I have any preload at all on the master cylinder, the front brakes drag and then lock up when they get hot. I've become pretty adept at jumping out on the side of the road, quickly removing the master cylinder, and adjusting the push rod in when this happens. The problem is, my brakes are a bit soft when I back the push rod off. I've completely bench bled the master cylinder and bled about a full bottle's worth of brake fluid through all four brakes on the truck. I know there is no air in the lines, yet the brakes are still very touchy with the smallest bit of preload on the master cylinder. I'm wondering if the proportioning valve needs to be adjusted to send more pressure to the rear brakes or if I need to maybe switch the front and rear brake lines at the valve. Any thoughts? I appreciate any and all help anyone is able to give me with this. Thanks.
There shouldn't be any "preload" on the master pushrod. There should be a tiny amount of clearance. They aren't difficult to adjust.
P2 combo valve is set up to distribute brake fluid accurately to the front (disc) and rear (drum) without needing adjustment. Which master cylinder and combo valve you use and how it is plumbed is critical.
 
Reply
Old Sep 23, 2024 | 06:21 PM
  #4  
Truck4SF's Avatar
Truck4SF
Mountain Pass
Photogenic
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2022
Posts: 204
Likes: 68
Something is off. Can you post some pictures of your setup? Use a push rod adjustment tool like
this this
and set the length correctly, no preload. The pedal should feel hard as soon as the pushrod applies pressure in the MC.
 
Reply
Old Sep 24, 2024 | 09:21 AM
  #5  
Thunderkiss1965's Avatar
Thunderkiss1965
Fleet Mechanic
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Jun 2019
Posts: 1,899
Likes: 236
From: Southern California
Originally Posted by Truck4SF
Something is off. Can you post some pictures of your setup? Use a push rod adjustment tool like this and set the length correctly, no preload. The pedal should feel hard as soon as the pushrod applies pressure in the MC.
Yes! This is the only tool you will ever need in order to make that critical adjustment.
I'm a working mechanic and use this every time I install a master cylinder, cause I know that it will be correct.
 
Reply
Old Sep 24, 2024 | 09:15 PM
  #6  
Copeyboy's Avatar
Copeyboy
Thread Starter
|
Cross-Country
Joined: Sep 2024
Posts: 55
Likes: 14
I ordered that tool. It'll be here tomorrow. After it arrives, I'll use it to adjust my push rod and I'll take pics of the whole setup to show you what's going on. Thanks for everything, so far, guys.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Barak
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
4
Nov 30, 2022 09:04 PM
Neschenbrenner001
1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
9
Nov 23, 2015 07:11 AM
fl-mitchells
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
16
Mar 15, 2013 01:43 PM
akparker1
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
7
Feb 26, 2009 12:54 PM
okwaho1650
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
11
Oct 7, 2008 11:08 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:48 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE